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chief operating officer first what solutions

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but technology consulting firm focused on
quality assurance based here in minnesota

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prior to his position that's what solutions
todd was vice President at thomson Reuters

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running various organizations or reflect in
your tenure there

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I was very active in the business community
and supports many technology and education

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based organisation

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he serves on the board of directors of the
minnesota high-tech association is also a

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member of minnesota science and technology
authority advisory commission

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was a member of the humphrey institute she
sixteen commission on education

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was a delegate to the national governors association's
summit on family foundation

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and also serves on the board of the mammoth's
of the minnesota academy of science

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please company join me in welcoming time partial

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good afternoon and thank you

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my thanks to die

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both candidates for for coming if does

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you have a television you know who's next
to me

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and we won't go into that the violence of
that I think was a star right off of with

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some of the questions today will be a little
bit different

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then a lot of the debates because really focusing
on technology initiatives technology initiatives

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that are important to

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not only this room but also the economy for
minnesota

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the first question and we'll start there

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%uh mister warner

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the private sector has use technology to innovator
in these challenging times over the last few

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years

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he uses to change our business process and
to apply and control our costs

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how do you see government under the administration

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using innovation and technology to be more
efficient more streamlined

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I'm for the future

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you know I think that's really one of the
compelling differences among the three candidates

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that where we have

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Senator being represented of them are too
often looking in the rear-view mirror to figure

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out how we correct the problems

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that we have with solutions from yesterday

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we really need to be looking to the the future

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and I think frankly in a lot of ways minnesota
state government undergo Paul direction

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has moved us in a lot of the the right direction

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now we need to be much bolder as we look to
the next four years

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I think entirely differently about solutions

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so let me give you a couple of examples

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there's a terrific company that

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some of you may be a familiar with

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Americans health care

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that is working with mail ideas insurers population

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to figure out how we can better coordinate
care for those with chronic conditions

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what makes this program really exciting is
that you're dealing with an elderly population

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they've created a interactive touch screen
computers

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that allow the these elderly patients

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ooh time to do and they're dealing agnostics
to have delete interaction with care providers

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and in doing so

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they've been able to identify the red flags
the warning signs

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got a lot of them could change but a rifle
for these people need hospitalization

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before expenses small talk

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they've managed to chronic conditions in a
way

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that is producing much better quality of life
for these people will substantially reducing

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the cost

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we ought to be doing that in our our public
health programs

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we ought to be doing that that too

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deliver better quality care

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at lower cost

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now the challenge is that

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take some money

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it takes an investment all fronts to get to
that

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we have to be willing to do that we have to
have the courage the innovation

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the goal now is to make those kinds of decisions

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and the second example that offer is

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%uh something that that I've champion that
I think really brings greater accountability

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to our government and that is

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we ought to start government process east
by saying what's the outcome that we need

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to achieve

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now how much are we going to spend and how
do we make it bigger

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for how much we go and how much do we spend
and how do we make it smaller for what is

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it that we're trying to achieve

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what's the outcome that's important to minnesota's
prosperity

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and then design our program from there

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we ought to go a step further than just identifying
the outcome

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we ought to create the technology that allows
every minute still to see the outcome

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to see the measure months

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to be able to go on a website understand what
is the program

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how much we spend and what are the the outcomes
that we're trying to achieve

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and what's the progress for making toward
those goals

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that's how we're going to bring greater accountability
the government

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that's how we're going to get better value
for our tax dollars

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that's how we're going to help

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the state moved forward

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thank you Senator daschle same question

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well thank all of you for a day inflation
is the twenty eight the debate that mister

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byrd a

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the together

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the three more to go

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%um

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and we thank you for your board in contributions
to work

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for coming in and really to the %uh the building
our society you know of

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I work for ordinary prevention

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this is an issue that I have no idea

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there was little bit easier for a man of sort
of the brain power state

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and the the

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the brain power that you

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who in your innovation shoe companies abroad
to minnesota

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as if to say no and and enhance our economy
really enhance a

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the air quality of life

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the

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in conversations I had with

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the management consultants in the private
sector

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you've worked with

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republican and democratic governors across
this country

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about opportunities that to improve the

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administrative efficiencies taking

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the advantage of the innovations in technology
and just a general administrative fishing

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season counts payable consolidation of human
resources like

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democrats strongly here in the interview that

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the state of missouri really is not

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but as receptive as many other states to these
opportunities over the last thirty years in

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particular

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so I I think there's a tremendous opportunity

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to bring in the expertise of the year the
private sector and others who

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the continued help government find ways to
provide

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the essential public services to more cost
effectively and that's going to be a parent

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whoever's ex-governor next legislature as
an anchor for

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there isn't

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county commissioners and school board administrators
of the nation's essential

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so we continue to find ways that we can streamline
government process season make it more cost

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efficient best we could and I have

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and I think you know the private sector's

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expertise in particular valuable because

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it's not something the government comes naturally
government

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and I remember coming in as state auditor
back in nineteen ninety one

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and they just completed the process previous
twelve years under the direction of the legislature

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to

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of a steady rise in the school districts your
accounts

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and by the time they and put it into a statewide
computer accounting system

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and by the time they agreed on all this

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details that they thought and it included

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a never seventeen different the symbols to
the internet accounts

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regina and then almost up here the intent
because then people were making the subjective

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decisions about which particular

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according to the according to seventeen business
was appropriate for the successor another

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in a neck and neck only years later they found
it is so and possibly complicated

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as I say they'd rather than objective find
and standardizing school coming they don't

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say cheese yeltsin is all

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so I think we have an opportunity to bring
your expertise the government and the division

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that a nice to look for an opportunity on
what the governor

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thank you Senator

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%uh the next question will start review Senator
didn't

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during the last legislative slight concession
the minnesota legislature passed the usual

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investment tax credit

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as well as an RD tax credit

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these are both critical to the growth of small
businesses primarily in the technology sector

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you agree that the state government should
play a role in turn sent new businesses in

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new bedford vestments and we do support additional

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or expansion use of this in the future

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oh yeah but but the used to support a member
of the

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it provides for its continuation of both the
next two fiscal year of life

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and although there were some member board
against the that the tax reform legislation

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well I think that that that was very important
as a

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you say was

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that particular with regard to Wisconsin was
in some of those up

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the decisions and

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you know I I against Serbian prisoners commission
economic development zone

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I relied on strong leader of that we are of
course in competition with other states

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and we need to provide targeted incentives
such as usual mister tax credit

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such as back then we have been enterprise
zones tax credits and other incentives that

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will prove effective

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in business a location or expansion decisions
that there would not have been made

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in minnesota stable as a decisive support
continuation that and before noon working

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with you if you find out how we can make it
would be better target

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and they're more effective than

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and more productive minnesota and I think
consumers returns is in these other programs

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in the past properly structured demonstrator
will find

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that the economic returns to the state are
greater than the initial investment

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thank you sir

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well one of the great things about doing so
many debates is that we establish a pretty

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clear record of where we stand on the issues

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and so the senators interesting now that to
talk about opening up government outsourcing

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when in fact a lot of the savings in your
budget

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a lot of your rhetoric has been exactly the
opposite for you've opposed outsourcing

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where you said you're going to get savings

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by stopping outsourcing of exactly the kinds
of services

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that would drive innovation

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so there needs to be a consistency because
that's really what we need from government

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so a couple of things

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my budget I might senate today in his budget

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foods tax reform

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where we do need to put more money into investment
incentives

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I think the angel investment credit

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it was a good first step

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but we need to be bold and look at other incentives

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we ought to take a look at whether or not
it makes sense to to a while individual investors

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the and in start up companies

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to write off losses against personal income

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look what happens when you make an investment
in a start-up company

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most of that investment goes to pay somebody
salary

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the state gets a benefit from that now we
hope the company succeeds

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but even if the company fails

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the states still has the right

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that effect

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it's created a job for however long

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to create that have been set up

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opens up a whole new pool of capital

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we need to be smart about these kinds of all
things we need to make these investments

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and what we certainly can't do

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I would guess many of the companies represented
in here

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our escorts and they all see

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I think Senator you need to ask them what
happens to their job creation

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what happens to their innovation

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if they have to take a thirty to forty percent
increase in this state income taxes

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among the guests that a lot of innovation

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leaves minnesota

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a lot of the jobs had ever created

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got to be consistent

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we have to speak to the future

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we have to have policies

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that match the rhetoric

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we have to have a product that inspires people

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week after have rhetoric that opens the door
to a new low innovation

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good thinking to creativity

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to really creating jobs to being bold

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too trusting the the bruins of the people
in this room

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the people in this industry

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Senator warner

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a former year the minnesota alter high-speed
broadband task force has pulled together you

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fairly aggressive recommendations of that
you had you become his pride and access throughout

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the state by twenty fifteen

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do you support the goals of this organization

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and are you committed to making these calls
reality if elected

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absolutely

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and I congratulate the opportunity share the
the question all the people who worked on

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it

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I think it does set the bar higher

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and we ought to be committed to achieving
that

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well we can't just rely on record with recommendations
I think we need to take the next step

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we need to figure out

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how do we expand access to broadband

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Steve why

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and I hope that in most areas it is a private
investment

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in some areas

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it's going to be a private public partnerships

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and in some areas

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it's probably going to take a public investment

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and we ought to be willing to make that investment

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because access to a high-speed broadband

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he is going to be the gateway to a world-class
education

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world class health care

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world class economic development opportunities

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and we ought to be willing to do that

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we ought to be willing to say that that is
our future

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that is where we need to go

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so those are important goals for us we do
need to make that commitment to it

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we do need to say that this is important for
the state

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and we're going to make that investment

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Senator daschle

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counsel you have senators and the economic
development proposal at it

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without it

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several months ago I might

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try to write a this state Senator donne trotter
stolen military the legislation

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to establish the task force tonight

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supporters were delusional or quid intuitive
one of them I

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hi it's a in know from troubling all over
the state now over last

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several months

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the that

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we need to have border to border or scene
was so high speed internet connection and

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we need to have border war

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and the scene was cellphone connection

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and that's crucial to allowing people to live

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and that conduct business

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anywhere everywhere in this state which is
crucial to competitiveness

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so in this global economy

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several for example to of to loosen minnesota

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and talk with the in tourism

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the business is up there

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and i'll say is crucial

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and it did according to an upper hand for
the north American free trade

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but even if you are going up there for a weekend
of %uh

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the legislation and respite from the city's
they still want to have that internet connection

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and those that can provide it

0:14:15.520,0:14:19.060
have a a definite advantage over those who
can't

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usually this less sweeping up in

0:14:20.980,0:14:23.120
these grand forks and morning

0:14:23.120,0:14:25.689
for OJ- simpson really for love

0:14:25.689,0:14:30.080
the world metropolis with the grand forks
in with fargo

0:14:30.080,0:14:31.750
so I was alone

0:14:31.750,0:14:32.230
populations

0:14:32.230,0:14:38.330
%uh absolutely no cellphone coverage of three
GMT whatsoever

0:14:38.330,0:14:42.160
bolivia is to get into all people to be everywhere
in this state

0:14:42.160,0:14:43.940
and to road

0:14:43.940,0:14:48.069
be successful everywhere in the state of both
of those are essential

0:14:48.069,0:14:51.979
support the task force to look forward to
working with those in as other ideas other

0:14:51.979,0:14:52.949
technologies and

0:14:52.949,0:14:55.729
working for additional federal funds is the
most lines of them

0:14:55.729,0:14:58.570
it's a known quantity funding some of these
a

0:14:58.570,0:15:02.820
the mission is and then we need to continue
that and nasa needs to be a public private

0:15:02.820,0:15:05.010
partnership

0:15:05.010,0:15:08.130
%uh this is for the senator's well to start

0:15:08.130,0:15:10.040
i'd take these businesses

0:15:10.040,0:15:12.179
you know as you know are important to the
economy

0:15:12.179,0:15:16.170
and to make sure they continue to compete
not only nationally but globally

0:15:16.170,0:15:20.520
we need a world-class education system to
support that

0:15:20.520,0:15:25.540
particularly for this crowd in the area of
sanitation science technology and sure enough

0:15:25.540,0:15:30.540
do you support targeted investments in education
both indicate well system as well as high

0:15:30.540,0:15:31.240
read

0:15:31.240,0:15:34.950
and also did any specific suggestions for
that area

0:15:34.950,0:15:39.850
well first of all we need we need to balance
the budget so whatever proposals I would make

0:15:39.850,0:15:43.170
no for further initiatives that in the context
of first

0:15:43.170,0:15:44.850
of balancing the budget but

0:15:44.850,0:15:48.240
the movie's state funding for public equal
education

0:15:48.240,0:15:51.830
has been reduced the by thirteen hundred dollars

0:15:51.830,0:15:52.780
person

0:15:52.780,0:15:55.930
then reluctantly she dollars over the last
two years

0:15:55.930,0:16:00.990
part of an overall to a higher education has
gone from twelve bias among was

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the romanovs states in the nation

0:16:03.310,0:16:05.490
the it again in this decade

0:16:05.490,0:16:07.640
to thirty second ads today

0:16:07.640,0:16:11.650
we are among the highest relations a two-year
public colleges are for a public universities

0:16:11.650,0:16:13.810
the university of minnesota

0:16:13.810,0:16:18.350
and so we are not making investments in so
we're not making investments overall and that

0:16:18.350,0:16:20.780
applies here is like a science in

0:16:20.780,0:16:23.590
technology is well I wasn't ninth grade science
teacher and

0:16:23.590,0:16:24.300
your city or

0:16:24.300,0:16:29.410
of college I I know that didn't make me to
make the initial investments in laboratories

0:16:29.410,0:16:30.250
and other

0:16:30.250,0:16:31.020
the equipment

0:16:31.020,0:16:32.910
and technology necessary

0:16:32.910,0:16:35.230
the report business on testing

0:16:35.230,0:16:40.640
you know the last two decades in the state
nation third through eleventh grade students

0:16:40.640,0:16:42.190
are subjected to

0:16:42.190,0:16:44.650
sixty one a different tests and told

0:16:44.650,0:16:48.640
well we are still so close in the senate you
know why is there such an emphasis on this

0:16:48.640,0:16:49.389
testing and

0:16:49.389,0:16:52.570
don't knock on the bill is absent Gordon absolutely

0:16:52.570,0:16:54.980
on the other hand I concluded in power

0:16:54.980,0:16:58.990
he's he's really talking about testing and
the cost more cost of that rather than the

0:16:58.990,0:17:00.309
cost of putting a computer

0:17:00.309,0:17:02.640
and every desk in every classroom

0:17:02.640,0:17:03.719
in every school

0:17:03.719,0:17:05.060
in America

0:17:05.060,0:17:07.800
and we make those kinds of investments

0:17:07.800,0:17:11.450
in in the providing our students from all
backgrounds

0:17:11.450,0:17:12.760
in all walks of life

0:17:12.760,0:17:15.740
with the tools and the technology that they're
going to need

0:17:15.740,0:17:17.200
to be successful

0:17:17.200,0:17:18.740
in the years ahead

0:17:18.740,0:17:24.210
then we'll start to reap the benefits of those
investments in the future in this global economy

0:17:24.210,0:17:25.900
that's right

0:17:25.900,0:17:30.520
voto for colleges clarify that point because
they've had on the phone to say about that

0:17:30.520,0:17:34.780
I'm back to the broadband I do think that
there will be areas of the state where we

0:17:34.780,0:17:36.379
need to have public investment

0:17:36.379,0:17:38.220
to create access to broadcast

0:17:38.220,0:17:41.620
I don't know that the same situation is true
in himself on

0:17:41.620,0:17:45.750
I don't think that the government ought to
be involved in every aspect of our lives certainly

0:17:45.750,0:17:46.730
and so

0:17:46.730,0:17:48.679
Senator I just this suggests that

0:17:48.679,0:17:53.000
maybe i'll look into it the more I see because
I got pretty good reception of rise is due

0:17:53.000,0:18:00.000
in some of to let me talk about the the the
the importance of of staff

0:18:00.910,0:18:01.770
okay

0:18:01.770,0:18:06.850
the you know ivory and and I will congratulate
senate today because I think he has spoken

0:18:06.850,0:18:09.880
articulately to the need for investment in
higher education

0:18:09.880,0:18:12.930
and I do think that it also is an important
part of our budget

0:18:12.930,0:18:17.650
we need to make that commitment we need to
make a a higher education accessible we need

0:18:17.650,0:18:18.929
to make it affordable

0:18:18.929,0:18:22.049
we need to make sure that that are two years
schools in particular

0:18:22.049,0:18:25.450
%uh are are well-funded and are are the bridge

0:18:25.450,0:18:29.280
well let me talk to where I think we do differ
and that is

0:18:29.280,0:18:31.720
i'll give you an example

0:18:31.720,0:18:34.520
the the largest school district

0:18:34.520,0:18:37.850
in the state a note to have a plan

0:18:37.850,0:18:39.210
superintendent there

0:18:39.210,0:18:45.620
last year was going to lose a terrific vocal
music program

0:18:45.620,0:18:48.090
when education minnesota and said

0:18:48.090,0:18:50.740
give me some flexibility and seniority

0:18:50.740,0:18:53.580
this is a great program a great young teacher

0:18:53.580,0:18:55.650
we're going to lose the program

0:18:55.650,0:18:57.290
to be some flexibility

0:18:57.290,0:18:59.680
allow me to examine one percent

0:18:59.680,0:19:03.110
both positions from the script seniority

0:19:03.110,0:19:05.030
these are requirements

0:19:05.030,0:19:08.480
now this is a school district with twenty
eight hundred teachers

0:19:08.480,0:19:11.580
he's asking for twenty eight waivers

0:19:11.580,0:19:14.230
education minnesota said no

0:19:14.230,0:19:16.520
next year in another high school

0:19:16.520,0:19:20.420
I'm going to lose some engineering program

0:19:20.420,0:19:25.780
a great young teacher engaging students getting
them involved in the and in a critical component

0:19:25.780,0:19:27.500
of of staff

0:19:27.500,0:19:29.030
we're going to lose the teacher

0:19:29.030,0:19:31.360
and with that we're going to lose the program

0:19:31.360,0:19:34.390
give me one half of one percent

0:19:34.390,0:19:38.710
fourteen waivers out of twenty eight hundred
teaching positions

0:19:38.710,0:19:41.660
an education minnesota turned it down

0:19:41.660,0:19:43.690
we can't afford that

0:19:43.690,0:19:48.259
it is great to state that we ought to have
more stamp in our higher education

0:19:48.259,0:19:51.750
but if we're not making the investment in
K-TWELVE

0:19:51.750,0:19:54.919
we're not going to get them there and in higher
education

0:19:54.919,0:20:01.140
and to get their we do need to think differently
about the twelfth about how it's structured

0:20:01.140,0:20:02.820
look what happens right now

0:20:02.820,0:20:05.479
you could walk into just about any high school

0:20:05.479,0:20:06.549
in minnesota

0:20:06.549,0:20:11.100
and I wouldn't be much different from the
high school classroom I walked into my freshman

0:20:11.100,0:20:11.890
year

0:20:11.890,0:20:14.260
maybe you'd have to wait board instead of
a blackboard

0:20:14.260,0:20:18.420
you'd have tables and chairs instead of death
you have a few computers in the room

0:20:18.420,0:20:24.030
but what happens next half from the basic
interaction between the teacher and the students

0:20:24.030,0:20:25.409
part of the same

0:20:25.409,0:20:28.410
I started the school in nineteen sixty four

0:20:28.410,0:20:31.050
what institution has remained that static

0:20:31.050,0:20:33.760
that long

0:20:33.760,0:20:36.529
look at how we address that the challenges

0:20:36.529,0:20:37.610
more money

0:20:37.610,0:20:40.750
when the teacher do this do that

0:20:40.750,0:20:45.570
instead of figuring out how kids learn how
do we get them engaged in step

0:20:45.570,0:20:47.620
how do we get them to think differently

0:20:47.620,0:20:51.760
you know in nineteen sixty four might be purchase
of the year

0:20:51.760,0:20:53.430
meet the beatles

0:20:53.430,0:20:56.440
and I was really excited about that

0:20:56.440,0:21:00.220
capitol records told me exactly what music
I would listen to

0:21:00.220,0:21:03.580
and the order in which I would listen to that
music

0:21:03.580,0:21:06.410
what eight-year-old would put up with that
today

0:21:06.410,0:21:09.130
what eight-year-old would say oh that's okay

0:21:09.130,0:21:10.750
how many

0:21:10.750,0:21:15.290
the one interesting information they want
to create their own information

0:21:15.290,0:21:16.139
and they do it

0:21:16.139,0:21:20.680
and they do it in every phase of their lives
until they get to the classroom

0:21:20.680,0:21:22.100
as a look what happens

0:21:22.100,0:21:24.150
we get to February

0:21:24.150,0:21:27.700
and from February some of the kids already
have learned the lessons of and we say well

0:21:27.700,0:21:30.720
you have to be board for a couple of months

0:21:30.720,0:21:34.669
and some of the kids are still trying to figure
out october's lessons

0:21:34.669,0:21:37.130
and the teacher because we've put said

0:21:37.130,0:21:39.950
Richard restrictions on our great teachers

0:21:39.950,0:21:43.040
have to teach to January

0:21:43.040,0:21:47.370
and are answer policymakers state but we've
got to have smaller classrooms we have to

0:21:47.370,0:21:49.390
have smaller class sizes

0:21:49.390,0:21:51.550
I don't maybe

0:21:51.550,0:21:55.120
but what if instead he said you know the answer
really is

0:21:55.120,0:21:58.350
let's in the students in the way they've really
water

0:21:58.350,0:21:59.610
and what's a lot of them

0:21:59.610,0:22:02.500
to design interactive learning lessons

0:22:02.500,0:22:05.909
using the expertise of of %uh of trains teachers

0:22:05.909,0:22:09.640
using expertise of care professionals

0:22:09.640,0:22:11.940
maybe the answer isn't twenty

0:22:11.940,0:22:14.290
maybe it's fifty chance

0:22:14.290,0:22:17.149
but it's five times of and yes

0:22:17.149,0:22:19.780
working under the guidance of a professional

0:22:19.780,0:22:22.340
acting with information on their own terms

0:22:22.340,0:22:26.500
learning at their own pace not come back you
know and are not bound by that clock

0:22:26.500,0:22:29.770
learning the way kids interact with information

0:22:29.770,0:22:34.809
not the way I interacted with information
in nineteen sixty four but the way to do that

0:22:34.809,0:22:35.750
date

0:22:35.750,0:22:39.200
that's where we need to think differently
that's where we need to think only

0:22:39.200,0:22:41.300
and looking in the rear-view mirror

0:22:41.300,0:22:45.650
because we're dedicated to buy the union's
because were dictated to by special interest

0:22:45.650,0:22:49.179
it's not going to move us forward on this
important issue of staff

0:22:49.179,0:22:52.220
and we need to be bolder we need to be more
innovative

0:22:52.220,0:22:54.760
we need to say to our creeks teachers

0:22:54.760,0:22:57.050
he'll help us design new classrooms

0:22:57.050,0:22:59.360
and we the policy makers will be with you

0:22:59.360,0:23:02.940
and we hope education minnesota is sitting
at the table with us

0:23:02.940,0:23:04.210
as partners

0:23:04.210,0:23:07.170
and giving us some flexibility on seniority

0:23:07.170,0:23:10.179
and giving us some flexibility on certification

0:23:10.179,0:23:13.990
so that in a secondary schools we have the
expertise

0:23:13.990,0:23:15.420
in the classroom

0:23:15.420,0:23:16.429
teaching the students

0:23:16.429,0:23:21.100
in the areas where we need development we
need innovation

0:23:21.100,0:23:22.350
thank you mister meraz

0:23:22.350,0:23:26.630
as a follow up interview that you brought
up some changes in in education system teaching

0:23:26.630,0:23:31.290
the private sector for for a long time has
been posing have professionals from the private

0:23:31.290,0:23:31.800
sector

0:23:31.800,0:23:35.460
to become edge on or to become teachers and
certification

0:23:35.460,0:23:39.280
so far to date education Minister on our teachers
union has not been

0:23:39.280,0:23:40.970
I'm supportive of this

0:23:40.970,0:23:43.030
are you in support of licensing

0:23:43.030,0:23:47.610
teachers from the private sector even though
they may not have gone through professional

0:23:47.610,0:23:48.210
training a

0:23:48.210,0:23:51.190
and traditional training to be an educator

0:23:51.190,0:23:55.150
and then how do you plan on working with the
teachers' union if you do support this yes

0:23:55.150,0:24:00.250
sir I think that's critical now I do believe
that anybody in the classroom

0:24:00.250,0:24:03.670
needs training and in the arc of instruction

0:24:03.670,0:24:08.320
but I don't think that that they need all
of that the lessons that are being commanded

0:24:08.320,0:24:09.950
by education minnesota

0:24:09.950,0:24:15.340
I think we do need some more flexibility we
do need to have expertise and so my proposal

0:24:15.340,0:24:16.090
would be

0:24:16.090,0:24:22.470
let's figure out what the right training is
allow certification in in areas of of technical

0:24:22.470,0:24:23.720
education in particular

0:24:23.720,0:24:25.450
at the secondary level

0:24:25.450,0:24:28.800
and I think for all the reasons that you know
also well

0:24:28.800,0:24:30.450
that makes a great deal of sense

0:24:30.450,0:24:32.660
and we ought to move forward with that

0:24:32.660,0:24:36.759
and the way I work with education minnesota
would be to invite them to the table

0:24:36.759,0:24:39.680
to figure out what is the right program for
training

0:24:39.680,0:24:41.999
to make sure that we have some flexibility

0:24:41.999,0:24:43.309
that we can move forward

0:24:43.309,0:24:46.680
but also say that that I think it is so important

0:24:46.680,0:24:48.649
and where I think that I have

0:24:48.649,0:24:53.210
%uh more so than than Senator did more so
than representative in America

0:24:53.210,0:24:54.309
the inclination

0:24:54.309,0:24:56.249
the ability the temperament

0:24:56.249,0:24:58.750
to build consensus among the public

0:24:58.750,0:25:00.440
and I think the issues like this

0:25:00.440,0:25:05.370
if we keep relying on the legislature if we
keep relying on education minnesota

0:25:05.370,0:25:07.929
there's no reason to believe that anything's
going to change

0:25:07.929,0:25:09.780
what would change in the next four years

0:25:09.780,0:25:11.179
in the last four years

0:25:11.179,0:25:12.919
and can we afford that

0:25:12.919,0:25:14.620
I don't think we can

0:25:14.620,0:25:15.500
and soul

0:25:15.500,0:25:18.389
the next governor to be successful in this
area

0:25:18.389,0:25:19.919
and so many other areas

0:25:19.919,0:25:24.059
they're going to have to be a governor that
goes over the heads of the legislature

0:25:24.059,0:25:26.710
engages those sixty seventy percent of minnesotans

0:25:26.710,0:25:29.840
of parents of professionals of students

0:25:29.840,0:25:32.790
who really believe in those who understand
the need for that

0:25:32.790,0:25:34.810
build a consensus there

0:25:34.810,0:25:39.669
and bring back political well back to the
legislature that's how we'll get it done

0:25:39.669,0:25:41.270
thank you Senator date

0:25:41.270,0:25:46.260
but new dress or innocence of a storm of the
beatles know the town of assuring experience

0:25:46.260,0:25:48.910
back in nineteen sixty four when I was in
tears and

0:25:48.910,0:25:50.420
women has gone

0:25:50.420,0:25:51.530
my of

0:25:51.530,0:25:56.580
a high school are he was having it's an annual
banquet and a season pending worry that your

0:25:56.580,0:25:57.230
honor

0:25:57.230,0:26:00.240
the coaches a home also remind

0:26:00.240,0:26:05.210
teachers and preschool so heroically and of
the ideals worker for the first time in the

0:26:05.210,0:26:07.470
united states on the Ed sullivan show and

0:26:07.470,0:26:12.670
I was all excited said this is as low as an
unknown and here's the beatles for my teenage

0:26:12.670,0:26:16.430
smoking on a pre-arranged signal pick me up
and locking in the closet and my coach who's

0:26:16.430,0:26:17.350
up

0:26:17.350,0:26:21.559
we're on the saudis was Mississippi with a
person because the absence of technology back

0:26:21.559,0:26:27.020
then we did it is to replace a life was able
to for back to the question of

0:26:27.020,0:26:30.960
you know I I tight on main street journal
science new York city out of college

0:26:30.960,0:26:36.670
I was pre-med in college I took advanced physics
and I taught biology and chemistry in the

0:26:36.670,0:26:41.420
organic chemistry I I do ninth street journal
science upside down inside out

0:26:41.420,0:26:43.780
but that in the future

0:26:43.780,0:26:48.360
and the skills of becoming an effective deterrent
for ones that I had to learn separately from

0:26:48.360,0:26:50.100
my academic now

0:26:50.100,0:26:54.940
so for people who are in the private sector
who have the expertise of the questions cries

0:26:54.940,0:26:57.430
who are willing to make that commitment

0:26:57.430,0:26:59.270
the career changing commitment

0:26:59.270,0:27:04.750
two of them to %uh teaching in our public
schools a elementary secondary post-secondary

0:27:04.750,0:27:05.940
that's fantastic

0:27:05.940,0:27:09.410
and there is right now in a sort of all true
why singer said method

0:27:09.410,0:27:12.910
by which they can apply in school nurses can
apply for a waiter

0:27:12.910,0:27:15.590
nell winners of our education

0:27:15.590,0:27:17.560
I'm told is very resistant

0:27:17.560,0:27:23.049
now the education sort of the department of
education arenas

0:27:23.049,0:27:24.850
homosexual on the side of saint Paul

0:27:24.850,0:27:26.490
a few years ago

0:27:26.490,0:27:29.260
and that is ninety percent of the students
among

0:27:29.260,0:27:33.130
none of the teachers will belong to the teaching
assistants hormone

0:27:33.130,0:27:37.130
and in the principal and the superintendent
saint Paul recognizing that was a very important

0:27:37.130,0:27:40.470
a skill the health person that you'd have
to speak the language of ninety percent of

0:27:40.470,0:27:41.850
the students will

0:27:41.850,0:27:45.770
apply to use the information nation for wavering
they were denied

0:27:45.770,0:27:48.330
well my car education the governor

0:27:48.330,0:27:50.470
would it would it would have approved

0:27:50.470,0:27:52.520
those those kinds of requests

0:27:52.520,0:27:56.990
and so i'd like to say what we the problems
are within the existing law

0:27:56.990,0:28:00.260
this is a very rich to prevent people who
are willing to make that commitment willing

0:28:00.260,0:28:04.350
to learn the skills in the coming affected
teachers in the party expertise to special

0:28:04.350,0:28:06.519
knowledge that specialized knowledge they
have

0:28:06.519,0:28:10.500
carcieri's a more fair that they will work
to make sure that can happen

0:28:10.500,0:28:11.730
thank you Senator

0:28:11.730,0:28:15.140
I'm not one more formal question and then
we'll open it up

0:28:15.140,0:28:19.900
%uh with %uh Senator dayton you being able
to %uh calls for stand

0:28:19.900,0:28:21.780
and then to go

0:28:21.780,0:28:22.750
this recording

0:28:22.750,0:28:26.010
do you need to give a general overview on
on your view so

0:28:26.010,0:28:29.640
%uh for technology specifically this audience
come

0:28:29.640,0:28:34.320
the question the Senator did do you believe
there are changes that could be made to minnesota

0:28:34.320,0:28:35.490
business tax structure

0:28:35.490,0:28:41.110
that balances the statements from you need
to provide services as well as individuals

0:28:41.110,0:28:44.480
businesses needs to invest in in their growth

0:28:44.480,0:28:49.320
well one again the first this show we have
is to limited

0:28:49.320,0:28:52.800
five point eight billion dollar projected
deficit for the next five years

0:28:52.800,0:28:57.760
so I I don't I'm not position to proposing
tax reductions so that with

0:28:57.760,0:29:02.350
such as a man like the angelos tax credit
which is included my budget is a continuation

0:29:02.350,0:29:06.169
I say I believe in principle of Senator Tom
harkin others of

0:29:06.169,0:29:08.149
does it really is clear that the DNA

0:29:08.149,0:29:14.220
the ten percent exclusion for income of three
percent after as corporations or for else

0:29:14.220,0:29:14.760
he's

0:29:14.760,0:29:17.690
so that money can be reinvested in the business

0:29:17.690,0:29:20.830
and then not be a tax of the individual level

0:29:20.830,0:29:23.530
doesn't that mean for someone like you look
at the future

0:29:23.530,0:29:26.770
I think the minnesota corporate tax system
is regressive

0:29:26.770,0:29:31.490
and I think that's more businesses that do
most or all their business in with in minnesota

0:29:31.490,0:29:36.880
I wrote corporate tax rate than the larger
corporations with with with with the three-part

0:29:36.880,0:29:39.320
fortunate for military or more effective tax
rate

0:29:39.320,0:29:43.610
and as long as being just a little years to
conform to Wisconsin

0:29:43.610,0:29:47.029
and again as I have done what they consider
in the future but I made it very clear in

0:29:47.029,0:29:51.470
a position of opposed to him at this point
in time

0:29:51.470,0:29:53.330
I'm sorry

0:29:53.330,0:29:57.390
hello sexy that's an if he knows getting religion
is slated to the campaign

0:29:57.390,0:30:01.860
don't we do need that flat tax overhaul we
have a tax system largely created in the nineteen

0:30:01.860,0:30:03.019
sixties and seventies

0:30:03.019,0:30:06.779
for a very different kind of economy in a
very different demographic

0:30:06.779,0:30:11.390
when we have a lot of young families coming
into their hiring bright spending years

0:30:11.390,0:30:14.289
the tax system heavily dependent on income
taxes

0:30:14.289,0:30:15.650
works very well

0:30:15.650,0:30:19.700
it's one of the reasons why minnesota was
able to invest in education and health care

0:30:19.700,0:30:21.870
and are our physical infrastructure

0:30:21.870,0:30:24.490
and do well in the sixties seventies eighties

0:30:24.490,0:30:29.000
set up a success we've had in the nineties
and and in the the last decade

0:30:29.000,0:30:29.990
today

0:30:29.990,0:30:31.840
we have a very different economy

0:30:31.840,0:30:34.769
will economy invested in service and knowledge

0:30:34.769,0:30:38.680
we have a a population that is growing older

0:30:38.680,0:30:40.200
as a direct result

0:30:40.200,0:30:42.159
of that the tax system we have

0:30:42.159,0:30:44.320
and I've had public policies

0:30:44.320,0:30:47.159
we have too much dependent on property tax

0:30:47.159,0:30:49.960
we have too much dependent on income tax

0:30:49.960,0:30:54.159
and the consequences that we have a great
deal of unfairness here

0:30:54.159,0:30:56.160
anaheim level of volatility

0:30:56.160,0:30:58.260
and the income tax side

0:30:58.260,0:31:00.250
look over the last dozen years or so

0:31:00.250,0:31:01.879
and one of the reasons why

0:31:01.879,0:31:06.160
we have some years with big surpluses and
some years with big deficits

0:31:06.160,0:31:08.549
is the volatility of the income tax

0:31:08.549,0:31:11.179
to put more reliance on the income tax

0:31:11.179,0:31:13.620
to say that we're going to tax

0:31:13.620,0:31:17.980
four percent of the population at a rate of
thirty to forty percent higher than we are

0:31:17.980,0:31:18.780
today

0:31:18.780,0:31:20.800
and that's going to fix the problem

0:31:20.800,0:31:23.900
that exacerbates the problem that makes it
worse

0:31:23.900,0:31:25.560
makes a great bumper sticker

0:31:25.560,0:31:27.650
but it's terrible economic policy

0:31:27.650,0:31:30.220
and so to senate today and talked about

0:31:30.220,0:31:30.989
Senator boxer

0:31:30.989,0:31:33.830
who is this year is chair of the senate ethics
committee

0:31:33.830,0:31:37.080
a democrat from northeastern minnesota

0:31:37.080,0:31:38.820
he proposed

0:31:38.820,0:31:42.020
tax reform very similar to what I've been
talking about

0:31:42.020,0:31:47.730
the business lead tax reform commission appointed
by set by governor plenty

0:31:47.730,0:31:49.270
recommended reform very much

0:31:49.270,0:31:51.130
what I'm talking about

0:31:51.130,0:31:51.780
parliament

0:31:51.780,0:31:55.179
who retired after twenty five years the federal
reserve system

0:31:55.179,0:31:57.390
one of the most respected economists

0:31:57.390,0:31:59.810
look at the three budget proposals

0:31:59.810,0:32:02.550
from corner remember from dayton

0:32:02.550,0:32:04.840
and sometimes the best

0:32:04.840,0:32:06.070
newspapers around the state

0:32:06.070,0:32:08.140
have looked at the tree budget proposals

0:32:08.140,0:32:09.179
and consistently

0:32:09.179,0:32:10.960
have said minus the past

0:32:10.960,0:32:12.490
because it drives reform

0:32:12.490,0:32:15.100
it changes a tax system that is out of date

0:32:15.100,0:32:17.210
to one that reflects the economy

0:32:17.210,0:32:20.520
first of all we create investment for individuals
and businesses

0:32:20.520,0:32:22.289
to to invest more

0:32:22.289,0:32:26.080
to invest in new businesses in research development
technology

0:32:26.080,0:32:27.150
new apartment

0:32:27.150,0:32:31.030
not tomorrow not a year from now not five
years from now

0:32:31.030,0:32:32.280
starting in twenty eleven

0:32:32.280,0:32:35.740
and secondly we're honest enough to say that
we're going to pay for it

0:32:35.740,0:32:37.359
through a consumption tax

0:32:37.359,0:32:40.060
more the sales tax rate by four percent

0:32:40.060,0:32:41.499
they're buying big ticket items

0:32:41.499,0:32:43.310
you'll get a break

0:32:43.310,0:32:45.599
medical care food

0:32:45.599,0:32:48.840
essential services will continue to keep taxes
out

0:32:48.840,0:32:52.990
clothing which actually increases the progressivity
of the sales tax

0:32:52.990,0:32:55.970
we ought to tax the way most states have

0:32:55.970,0:32:59.390
same with personal services that's where our
economy is today

0:32:59.390,0:33:01.059
it does two things one

0:33:01.059,0:33:02.620
is that it gives the government

0:33:02.620,0:33:07.740
a predictable flow of them come so we can
make political long term decisions but education

0:33:07.740,0:33:09.869
health care research infrastructure

0:33:09.869,0:33:11.870
the things government ought to be doing

0:33:11.870,0:33:16.879
but secondly we have in minnesota more and
more people like the country

0:33:16.879,0:33:18.710
nothing in the income tax at all

0:33:18.710,0:33:19.770
you don't pay any ten

0:33:19.770,0:33:23.450
asked it's pretty easy to be an advocate of
more government spending

0:33:23.450,0:33:26.450
as the principal that's good economic policy

0:33:26.450,0:33:30.799
we need to connect people to the cost of government
based on their ability to pay

0:33:30.799,0:33:34.429
so that everybody has a speedy in controlling
the cost of government

0:33:34.429,0:33:36.560
in making government more accountable

0:33:36.560,0:33:38.700
we need tax reform

0:33:38.700,0:33:41.669
not just more taxes

0:33:41.669,0:33:44.170
thank you mister miner %uh

0:33:44.170,0:33:48.400
this is the last question we'll start with
Senator dayton and then because of his remarks

0:33:48.400,0:33:50.870
you have the room full of two hundred fifty

0:33:50.870,0:33:53.160
I teach professions here

0:33:53.160,0:33:56.980
I'm well respected and leaders in the industry

0:33:56.980,0:33:58.799
but two minutes left each

0:33:58.799,0:34:01.830
what would you like to say to this group of
individuals

0:34:01.830,0:34:02.840
Senator did

0:34:02.840,0:34:07.990
well this is the election is about minnesota's
future it's about your futures but a recognition

0:34:07.990,0:34:11.679
of some of you I would affect my my tax proposal
to make it over

0:34:11.679,0:34:12.469
going to go lower still

0:34:12.469,0:34:15.649
of actual income of over hundred seventy three
thousand dollars a year

0:34:15.649,0:34:19.789
the individual hundred fifty two thousand
dollars well I would have to pay it

0:34:19.789,0:34:24.409
higher taxes on the person entering that a
lot of your income above of all those levels

0:34:24.409,0:34:25.819
them

0:34:25.819,0:34:29.479
not to raise taxes for the sake of raising
taxes because I don't know where I learned

0:34:29.479,0:34:30.890
it is like pay taxes

0:34:30.890,0:34:34.749
but because we have a six billion dollar five
point two billion dollar project and others

0:34:34.749,0:34:39.289
and because of the social services like quality
education I think we all agree is essential

0:34:39.289,0:34:40.329
to

0:34:40.329,0:34:43.399
Clinton is in the future and and on jurors

0:34:43.399,0:34:44.510
in four years

0:34:44.510,0:34:47.840
as well as employees a state another central
public services

0:34:47.840,0:34:49.969
are our vital its stake here

0:34:49.969,0:34:52.079
because of the context of this

0:34:52.079,0:34:54.429
is it was a lot of our revenue

0:34:54.429,0:34:58.659
shares of the top ten percent of income earners
who was over the past four percentage of their

0:34:58.659,0:35:02.219
income a state and local taxes but he percent
compared to everyone else

0:35:02.219,0:35:03.660
the top one percent

0:35:03.660,0:35:05.819
people making over a million to hear

0:35:05.819,0:35:09.789
the two thirds according to sort of remember
that the percent of their tactic guns and

0:35:09.789,0:35:11.040
signaled local taxes

0:35:11.040,0:35:14.500
back under governor arne carlson the republican
governor in the middle eighties

0:35:14.500,0:35:18.110
we enjoyed much higher economic growth in
the state will look to other states

0:35:18.110,0:35:20.869
in real terms and we have over this last decade

0:35:20.869,0:35:26.009
you know the state and local taxes of burden
of the stand to say he was rolling evenly

0:35:26.009,0:35:26.509
distributed

0:35:26.509,0:35:28.479
now as he comes to be regressive

0:35:28.479,0:35:32.180
the right to disagree including tax is regressive

0:35:32.180,0:35:36.359
would I be a more income middle income people
pay a higher percentage of their income in

0:35:36.359,0:35:39.619
taxes sell stocks including the one operated
income people

0:35:39.619,0:35:43.899
so really because of her relatives says that
the sales tax on services

0:35:43.899,0:35:46.259
falls two-and-a-half times more heavily on
people

0:35:46.259,0:35:49.609
the middle income the two percent of their
income people in the top

0:35:49.609,0:35:50.470
so work

0:35:50.470,0:35:53.949
what I'm trying to do it with my proposal
is redress

0:35:53.949,0:35:55.239
some of the inequity

0:35:55.239,0:35:58.359
the existing in minnesota tax system because

0:35:58.359,0:36:01.009
the press hill to pay taxes in the state

0:36:01.009,0:36:03.900
and we need to make it fairer and people pay
taxes

0:36:03.900,0:36:07.670
more willingly if they understand that everybody
else is paying their fair share

0:36:07.670,0:36:11.369
now falling the body individually for that
these are policies were made

0:36:11.369,0:36:15.249
the governor is what the President did have
those compound that affects over the last

0:36:15.249,0:36:17.239
sixteen years but the reality is

0:36:17.239,0:36:19.900
but those taxes on income workers at the top

0:36:19.900,0:36:24.020
I'm trying to redress that balance generate
revenues along with spending cuts necessary

0:36:24.020,0:36:27.770
the position of sort of the economic growth
we all know it needs to be successful in the

0:36:27.770,0:36:28.900
future

0:36:28.900,0:36:31.209
think the senate in mister barr

0:36:31.209,0:36:35.759
well thank you very much for this opportunity
and let me start where said dayton ended

0:36:35.759,0:36:39.150
how many of your business is would create
strategic

0:36:39.150,0:36:40.759
plans for the future

0:36:40.759,0:36:43.849
based on what you were doing fifteen years
ago

0:36:43.849,0:36:47.039
why would we design economic policy for the
state

0:36:47.039,0:36:50.460
based on work what worked in the mid-nineteen
nineties

0:36:50.460,0:36:51.100
ludicrous

0:36:51.100,0:36:54.029
that's not what's going to get us moving to
the the the future

0:36:54.029,0:36:58.049
but that's exactly where we were at in this
campaign and it has strained I think the challenge

0:36:58.049,0:36:59.429
of this campaign

0:36:59.429,0:37:01.550
we have one candidate who says

0:37:01.550,0:37:03.230
we'll just cut everything

0:37:03.230,0:37:06.650
will reduce the status quo will make it as
small as possible

0:37:06.650,0:37:08.000
and everything will be fine

0:37:08.000,0:37:12.699
but another candidate who says all noble tax
four percent of the the population

0:37:12.699,0:37:15.049
will make the status quo a lot bigger

0:37:15.049,0:37:17.339
the minnesota will be fine

0:37:17.339,0:37:18.629
and I approach

0:37:18.629,0:37:21.679
the status quo this is working for a lot of
people

0:37:21.679,0:37:27.769
the status quo doesn't work for a lot of minnesotans
for individuals for businesses for the state

0:37:27.769,0:37:29.099
for our future

0:37:29.099,0:37:31.719
we need to redesign the status quo

0:37:31.719,0:37:33.349
we need to think differently

0:37:33.349,0:37:35.199
more boldly about the future

0:37:35.199,0:37:37.090
we need to be opened an ovation

0:37:37.090,0:37:42.709
we need a tax system that works for the future
not for the mid nineteen ninety

0:37:42.709,0:37:46.980
we need a tax system that's first innovation
that's first development

0:37:46.980,0:37:52.569
that encourages entrepreneurs control in minnesota
create jobs in minnesota

0:37:52.569,0:37:54.890
create the new ideas in minnesota

0:37:54.890,0:37:56.160
that's our future

0:37:56.160,0:37:58.859
and that's what this campaign is all about

0:37:58.859,0:38:00.209
in senate debate

0:38:00.209,0:38:01.720
you have a person

0:38:01.720,0:38:06.969
who is proposing at tax proposal that even
most democrats won't support

0:38:06.969,0:38:08.589
and representative them are

0:38:08.589,0:38:14.670
a republican who is proposing tax cuts that
even most republicans won't support

0:38:14.670,0:38:17.850
what governor Dean take the step state of
two steps to the left

0:38:17.850,0:38:18.829
of course

0:38:18.829,0:38:21.169
and the republicans will you come back

0:38:21.169,0:38:23.059
dahmer a few steps to the right

0:38:23.059,0:38:24.039
of course

0:38:24.039,0:38:26.239
i'd tell them a Clinton comeback

0:38:26.239,0:38:30.610
does anyone in this room think that we can
be a state that is moving sideways

0:38:30.610,0:38:32.259
left or right

0:38:32.259,0:38:34.319
we need to be moving to the future

0:38:34.319,0:38:36.029
we need bold leadership

0:38:36.029,0:38:38.799
we need somebody who's going to look to the
future

0:38:38.799,0:38:42.969
so let me leave you with this for the last
couple of days is enacted he just after the

0:38:42.969,0:38:44.309
DFA dollars somebody

0:38:44.309,0:38:48.799
has been calling minnesotans to say who you
going to vote for

0:38:48.799,0:38:50.150
and what makes it harder

0:38:50.150,0:38:53.659
they say well you know order to vote for democrats

0:38:53.659,0:38:54.589
no it's not

0:38:54.589,0:38:58.469
one is a vote for warner

0:38:58.469,0:39:01.439
part of the vote for the future

0:39:01.439,0:39:05.549
I greatly respect Senator didn't I disagree
with his policies

0:39:05.549,0:39:08.819
I greatly have come to respect representative
amber

0:39:08.819,0:39:11.379
but I disagree with his policies

0:39:11.379,0:39:13.759
here's what I would ask of you

0:39:13.759,0:39:15.670
you need to both future

0:39:15.670,0:39:20.519
you need to vote for what is in the best interest
of minnesota you need to vote to break the

0:39:20.519,0:39:24.039
gridlock we can't afford four years of stagnation

0:39:24.039,0:39:29.419
and so if you want bold leadership in the
governor's office in January of twenty eleven

0:39:29.419,0:39:30.720
it only starts

0:39:30.720,0:39:34.150
with bold leadership from you the voters next
Tuesday

0:39:34.150,0:39:35.879
thank you very much

0:39:35.879,0:39:40.139
mister harmon Senator did not want to thank
you very much for taking the time to to commit

0:39:40.139,0:39:42.559
to this and a very busy week for you

0:39:42.559,0:39:44.039
that six days to go

0:39:44.039,0:39:48.289
but I think you because you're busy schedules
and the time that you've given them not honest

0:39:48.289,0:39:49.529
and open

0:39:49.529,0:39:53.779
now I would like to invite you both to be
an eighty eight tactic the awards on November

0:39:53.779,0:39:57.919
third of the weaker for it and I I

0:39:57.919,0:40:03.119
well as rose notably that they don't know
the dangers of thousand people recognizing

0:40:03.119,0:40:04.440
minnesota innovation time

0:40:04.440,0:40:06.259
let me up its convention center

0:40:06.259,0:40:07.869
%uh please join me in

0:40:07.869,0:40:13.729
not thinking both candidates for the great
pal

0:40:13.729,0:40:19.569
well

0:40:19.569,0:40:20.589
I