0:00:00.919,0:00:02.399 the ground 0:00:02.399,0:00:05.270 after each candidate is the one that opening statement 0:00:05.270,0:00:08.909 I laughed the first in a series of questions to the candidates 0:00:08.909,0:00:10.299 bill each have one minute 0:00:10.299,0:00:11.739 the answer the question 0:00:11.739,0:00:13.090 and I will follow up 0:00:13.090,0:00:15.889 with one to or all three of the candidates 0:00:15.889,0:00:16.880 he broke the ice 0:00:16.880,0:00:20.039 he determined that we will start Senator dayton 0:00:20.039,0:00:21.470 followed by mister porter 0:00:21.470,0:00:23.729 followed by representative 0:00:23.729,0:00:25.490 everything your opening statement 0:00:25.490,0:00:28.080 the defense appears to thank you all for being here 0:00:28.080,0:00:29.619 why did you join donna 0:00:29.619,0:00:32.339 son Andrew the who's the third year 0:00:32.339,0:00:34.890 boston the university of minnesota 0:00:34.890,0:00:39.610 unfortunately it is a small but important questions for members of Hamas four 0:00:39.610,0:00:43.219 it's appropriate or here at the university has higher education 0:00:43.219,0:00:47.140 throughout minnesota is so important to the future of our state 0:00:47.140,0:00:48.160 and yet in minnesota 0:00:48.160,0:00:50.000 the drop from being the 0:00:50.000,0:00:54.880 well higher state among the nation's in this expenditures for higher education in two thousand 0:00:54.880,0:00:55.490 one 0:00:55.490,0:00:57.410 the thirty-fifth please 0:00:57.410,0:00:59.460 among the states in two thousand nine 0:00:59.460,0:01:01.780 our commitment to higher education as 0:01:01.780,0:01:03.229 the other aspects of 0:01:03.229,0:01:05.430 public education minnesota has fallen 0:01:05.430,0:01:08.690 and that's one of the reasons that the tuition is your view 0:01:08.690,0:01:11.780 has doubled in real dollars over the past decade 0:01:11.780,0:01:13.330 the kids are affordable 0:01:13.330,0:01:16.470 for far too many minnesota families and there 0:01:16.470,0:01:17.509 sons and daughters 0:01:17.509,0:01:18.760 first of all 0:01:18.760,0:01:23.660 when our own work in minnesota families cannot afford to send their own children for public 0:01:23.660,0:01:24.290 university 0:01:24.290,0:01:25.030 blind governor 0:01:25.030,0:01:27.210 a work to make to issue more affordable 0:01:27.210,0:01:29.369 for you and others falling 0:01:29.369,0:01:31.759 thank you sir 0:01:31.759,0:01:36.119 well thank you very much and I do think that it's appropriate that we have this debate 0:01:36.119,0:01:39.820 %uh among the many that we've helped at the university 0:01:39.820,0:01:45.050 because in so many ways this really is an election about the future about your future 0:01:45.050,0:01:48.510 and I think the fundamental question of this election is 0:01:48.510,0:01:50.159 do we invest 0:01:50.159,0:01:54.000 bill we speak are care a narrow partisan solutions 0:01:54.000,0:01:58.740 one of which that was just cut spending and everything was resolved that way 0:01:58.740,0:02:00.159 the other which says 0:02:00.159,0:02:02.840 let's just tax four percent of the population 0:02:02.840,0:02:05.080 and everybody else gets a free ride 0:02:05.080,0:02:07.640 those are solutions that look in the rear-view mirror 0:02:07.640,0:02:09.170 we need to look to the future 0:02:09.170,0:02:10.789 to your future 0:02:10.789,0:02:16.039 minnesota is a terrific state a state of great strength great opportunities great assets 0:02:16.039,0:02:18.659 now we need leadership that map 0:02:18.659,0:02:23.489 I appreciate this opportunity and I'm looking forward to the conversation 0:02:23.489,0:02:25.129 because work 0:02:25.129,0:02:28.010 thank you catherine thanks for doing this thank you 0:02:28.010,0:02:29.620 mister warner 0:02:29.620,0:02:30.579 Saturday 0:02:30.579,0:02:35.219 thank all of you for showing up to the this is %uh a hopefully going to be a great dialogue 0:02:35.219,0:02:35.879 between the 0:02:35.879,0:02:40.399 the three of us in all of you see that the no who we are and what we're about 0:02:40.399,0:02:41.149 briefly 0:02:41.149,0:02:44.289 there's three people running for the office of governor in the state of minnesota but 0:02:44.289,0:02:45.839 they're only to mexicans 0:02:45.839,0:02:50.089 the one hand my colleagues proposed raising billions of dollars of taxes 0:02:50.089,0:02:55.069 to support what we believe is that unsustainable yet again growth in government 0:02:55.069,0:02:59.309 we believe it's time to look at a different direction we believe it's time to talk about 0:02:59.309,0:03:01.640 government living within its means having a purchase 0:03:01.640,0:03:06.250 the services that we all expect government to provide with the resources available 0:03:06.250,0:03:08.489 and we have certainly jobs 0:03:08.489,0:03:11.699 the case that after all who cannot pay for anything 0:03:11.699,0:03:14.969 that %uh you expect government to provide if you're not 0:03:14.969,0:03:17.879 a healthy number of new jobs in the private sector 0:03:17.879,0:03:22.119 but before the discussion today and thanks again for him 0:03:22.119,0:03:23.309 thank thank you all 0:03:23.309,0:03:24.719 the first question 0:03:24.719,0:03:26.499 it'll start your biggest winner 0:03:26.499,0:03:27.500 the next governor 0:03:27.500,0:03:32.280 we'll have the immediate responsibility of presenting a budget that addresses the anticipated 0:03:32.280,0:03:32.630 deficit 0:03:32.630,0:03:35.929 it approaches six billion dollars over the next two years 0:03:35.929,0:03:37.720 now these presented your plan 0:03:37.720,0:03:39.260 and many other venues 0:03:39.260,0:03:40.400 now 0:03:40.400,0:03:44.670 please identify the specific components and your opponents proposal 0:03:44.670,0:03:46.510 he would not support as governor 0:03:46.510,0:03:48.479 and one line 0:03:48.479,0:03:54.419 and I think that the main unfair on well yeltsin and I would not support senate to be in the 0:03:54.419,0:03:54.950 proposal 0:03:54.950,0:03:59.180 the increased the top-rated the income tax to what would be one of the highest rates 0:03:59.180,0:04:00.239 of the the country 0:04:00.239,0:04:03.700 I think it imposes a terrible burden and job creators 0:04:03.700,0:04:05.959 and if we tax the the job creators 0:04:05.959,0:04:07.359 we're taxing away jobs 0:04:07.359,0:04:12.060 the senate today in part frequently about the GTE and thief river falls a great company 0:04:12.060,0:04:14.739 a company that is added hundreds of jobs 0:04:14.739,0:04:19.489 that's a company that would have its big tax increase by thirty to forty percent 0:04:19.489,0:04:22.040 the senate could be his proposal goes through 0:04:22.040,0:04:23.419 that's unacceptable 0:04:23.419,0:04:26.089 I'm representative the cameras up proposal 0:04:26.089,0:04:30.889 I don't think that we can afford to cut at the level that representative hammer have 0:04:30.889,0:04:33.680 proposed I think he's offering too much in 0:04:33.680,0:04:36.970 tax cuts that don't get the business tax reform 0:04:36.970,0:04:37.490 simply pad 0:04:37.490,0:04:40.540 the the bottom line we do need business tax reform 0:04:40.540,0:04:44.749 but the first tax dollar has to be invested in incentive businesses 0:04:44.749,0:04:46.750 and individuals to invest 0:04:46.750,0:04:48.650 not just in getting to the bottom line 0:04:48.650,0:04:52.529 I think we need a more balanced approach than what representative member proposals 0:04:52.529,0:04:53.740 a customer 0:04:53.740,0:04:54.389 yeah 0:04:54.389,0:04:58.360 well the and I appreciate that but a maybe we should sit down and talk about it some 0:04:58.360,0:04:59.989 more because I presented 0:04:59.989,0:05:01.419 the only balanced budget 0:05:01.419,0:05:05.729 the only budget that actually balances in every area of my colleagues 0:05:05.729,0:05:09.809 Saturday it still is a billion dollar hole in his he still working on it mister porter 0:05:09.809,0:05:11.939 says it's one half billion dollar hole 0:05:11.939,0:05:13.789 I mean here years were 0:05:13.789,0:05:14.800 I disagree 0:05:14.800,0:05:18.330 I disagree that we should be raising all kinds of taxes 0:05:18.330,0:05:22.580 to grow government almost seventeen percent in the next two years because some point we 0:05:22.580,0:05:24.870 have to get a hold of the spending of government 0:05:24.870,0:05:27.020 yes government's got to provide services 0:05:27.020,0:05:30.639 but we should be able to purchase those services within available resources 0:05:30.639,0:05:33.120 and folks bank whenever we talk about cutting 0:05:33.120,0:05:35.509 I I think by colleagues should be 0:05:35.509,0:05:39.589 clear about the fact we're not cutting government in fact our budget increases government spending 0:05:39.589,0:05:42.219 in explaining by seventy percent 0:05:42.219,0:05:45.310 we believe government can live with and that means seventy eight percent 0:05:45.310,0:05:46.400 of revenue 0:05:46.400,0:05:51.749 rather the growing at unsustainable the by seventeen percent 0:05:51.749,0:05:56.180 well I don't disagree with mister horn proposal to expand it fails fact to 0:05:56.180,0:05:58.309 clothing and to personal services this is 0:05:58.309,0:06:00.069 their cuts in car repairs 0:06:00.069,0:06:03.090 because that's a tax that falls more heavily on the middle class 0:06:03.090,0:06:05.489 then on upper income taxpayers 0:06:05.489,0:06:07.689 I agree with his I disagree 0:06:07.689,0:06:09.979 but represented members proposal to cut 0:06:09.979,0:06:12.300 on a prior occasion by 0:06:12.300,0:06:14.270 fourteen percent 0:06:14.270,0:06:17.110 local government a by one forward 0:06:17.110,0:06:22.340 and the minnesota department of revenue says for every dollar that you cut in 0:06:22.340,0:06:23.649 local government aids 0:06:23.649,0:06:28.369 orange school aid from the state property taxes go up but sixty seven cents 0:06:28.369,0:06:32.649 so that's what property taxes minnesota under governor plenty of on for four billion dollars 0:06:32.649,0:06:34.100 to seven billion dollars 0:06:34.100,0:06:38.209 that falls most heavily on middle-income families and on small businesses 0:06:38.209,0:06:43.399 so kind of appropriate school systems in addition they're hurting schools and police and fire 0:06:43.399,0:06:44.870 other essential protections 0:06:44.870,0:06:48.990 these property taxes would continue to rise for working on this since their families 0:06:48.990,0:06:49.800 the contras 0:06:49.800,0:06:53.139 a lot of fact the middle class from higher taxes 0:06:53.139,0:06:54.379 you can express and and 0:06:54.379,0:06:59.560 %uh and the electorate that's a pretty distinct policy positions but we know it would be difficult 0:06:59.560,0:07:01.139 for and one of your plan 0:07:01.139,0:07:05.039 I had to get through the legislature without some compromises and certainly seen that guy 0:07:05.039,0:07:06.590 in the last by Indian 0:07:06.590,0:07:09.479 where are you willing to compromise what 0:07:09.479,0:07:13.009 parts of your opponents proposals would you be willing to accept if I can actually all 0:07:13.009,0:07:15.729 of you to answer that question 0:07:15.729,0:07:19.149 is a follow up 0:07:19.149,0:07:20.590 part of the process and I have 0:07:20.590,0:07:24.940 the executive branch to nine different legislative sessions is is given taken 0:07:24.940,0:07:28.619 the beach or don't want legislators with the different points of view from line 0:07:28.619,0:07:32.189 and that's part of the process so I I wouldn't rule anything out to begin with 0:07:32.189,0:07:36.699 well will get you but the forecasts of both in December and then %uh the next January 0:07:36.699,0:07:37.229 February 0:07:37.229,0:07:39.800 and so this will be a moving target to begin with 0:07:39.800,0:07:43.360 and a all work with legislators of the week meet the constitutional requirement by the 0:07:43.360,0:07:45.949 end of the session to balancing the state budget 0:07:45.949,0:07:47.020 I 0:07:47.020,0:07:50.129 offers I'm the only one who is provided 0:07:50.129,0:07:51.419 proposals for jobs 0:07:51.419,0:07:53.319 creation of the state involving 0:07:53.319,0:07:57.279 production the corporate franchise tax %uh ten percent exclusion and pass through income 0:07:57.279,0:07:59.449 for small businesses 0:07:59.449,0:08:03.799 expanding the research and development tax credit expanded the angel investment tax credit 0:08:03.799,0:08:09.409 to grow jobs that catherine actually has support from both republicans and that democrats 0:08:09.409,0:08:11.900 but historically in the legislature 0:08:11.900,0:08:16.930 Patrick this Saturday is offered a yet tax the rich plan that gets seven votes in the 0:08:16.930,0:08:18.959 minnesota house of representative 0:08:18.959,0:08:24.709 and mister boehner his a offered a sales tax plan that has %uh very little any support 0:08:24.709,0:08:27.160 all right now in the legislature so for stop 0:08:27.160,0:08:31.449 I have put out a plan that would brought dropped people from both sides in second 0:08:31.449,0:08:35.839 the only overriding message I would have to the legislature's government must live within 0:08:35.839,0:08:37.380 the seven eight percent 0:08:37.380,0:08:40.610 of new revenue it's going to have to stand and if there are different 0:08:40.610,0:08:46.270 the priorities that the legislature has %uh within the line items were open to talk about 0:08:46.270,0:08:49.630 well I think and I think that really is in a lot of ways 0:08:49.630,0:08:52.020 the critical question of this election 0:08:52.020,0:08:55.850 I think we have two candidates with all due respect my colleagues 0:08:55.850,0:08:57.930 look what all of their investment 0:08:57.930,0:09:00.150 in very narrow solution 0:09:00.150,0:09:04.189 and it could be appealing to the very liberal democrats only 0:09:04.189,0:09:08.190 representative ember appealing to the very conservative republicans own 0:09:08.190,0:09:11.170 fact of the matter is when you look at my proposals 0:09:11.170,0:09:12.310 the the share 0:09:12.310,0:09:15.489 our of the senate tax committee in the past session 0:09:15.489,0:09:16.310 Senator boxer 0:09:16.310,0:09:19.220 a good northeastern minnesota democrat 0:09:19.220,0:09:21.310 made a proposal very similar to mine 0:09:21.310,0:09:23.030 the business to lead 0:09:23.030,0:09:25.949 business appointed governor pawlenty appointed 0:09:25.949,0:09:27.550 tax reform commission 0:09:27.550,0:09:28.900 came out and said 0:09:28.900,0:09:31.420 this is what we need to do my proposal 0:09:31.420,0:09:33.680 the the the broadening the base 0:09:33.680,0:09:36.580 because what we really need to do is reform taxes 0:09:36.580,0:09:39.430 we put too much dependent on income tax 0:09:39.430,0:09:40.920 and so my proposal 0:09:40.920,0:09:43.600 reduce the the sales tax broaden the base 0:09:43.600,0:09:47.900 have broad bipartisan support that's the only plan that does 0:09:47.900,0:09:49.670 thank all thanks a lot 0:09:49.670,0:09:53.520 I'm sure we'll get back to the various budget proposals that such important part of this 0:09:53.520,0:09:56.110 campaign but it would shift the focus for a minute on 0:09:56.110,0:10:01.070 from the Minister is immediate budget shortfall to focus on the next decade 0:10:01.070,0:10:06.220 what do you think are the biggest challenges facing minnesota over the next ten years in 0:10:06.220,0:10:08.600 what specifically which in jail is governor 0:10:08.600,0:10:14.509 to insure that minnesota meets these challenges Iraq and here we are starting with representative 0:10:14.509,0:10:16.910 ever on an endpoint statement 0:10:16.910,0:10:19.360 once again it's a great question 0:10:19.360,0:10:23.780 because I I just point out that my colleague mister or nobody is a agreed of those groups 0:10:23.780,0:10:27.570 you talked about that we should be doing billions of dollars in tax increases 0:10:27.570,0:10:30.249 the biggest challenge for the next ten years 0:10:30.249,0:10:34.509 is to bring government state government and in the twenty first century pay any business 0:10:34.509,0:10:37.649 it that operated the way it did thirty years ago forty years ago 0:10:37.649,0:10:39.570 would not be in business today 0:10:39.570,0:10:43.449 private businesses are constantly adapting to meet the challenges of the new day 0:10:43.449,0:10:47.060 our state government by comparison still works the same way today 0:10:47.060,0:10:51.550 as it did many years ago and it's time to start looking at the various agencies the 0:10:51.550,0:10:52.089 design 0:10:52.089,0:10:55.360 we design our state government so that it delivers 0:10:55.360,0:10:57.000 the services people it 0:10:57.000,0:10:58.930 specter in the most efficient 0:10:58.930,0:11:02.470 affordable and more importantly stable manner and then the job 0:11:02.470,0:11:05.750 immediately and over the next decade start to grow old jobs again 0:11:05.750,0:11:09.209 in our private sectors to the minnesota can once again 0:11:09.209,0:11:13.290 realize the opportunity that we have been we have companies like honeywell IBM three 0:11:13.290,0:11:14.179 and you know back 0:11:14.179,0:11:17.810 that means stop 0:11:17.810,0:11:19.000 but of that 0:11:19.000,0:11:24.590 I we want we're going backwards so the that one legal up 0:11:24.590,0:11:26.250 kitty thank you 0:11:26.250,0:11:29.700 mister Gore 0:11:29.700,0:11:36.700 and I did make a joke about that 0:11:39.870,0:11:41.810 how did I do 0:11:41.810,0:11:45.300 good faith linemates by Senator day the next ten years 0:11:45.300,0:11:50.740 well I'm here is the the basement continue our off the defense members of not believe 0:11:50.740,0:11:51.609 the that 0:11:51.609,0:11:55.610 the itself week yeah 0:11:55.610,0:12:00.210 job creation for me the key for minnesota information on the London times six times 0:12:00.210,0:12:01.960 this decade of singing 0:12:01.960,0:12:05.529 his people willing to work work for her to from all over the world the the challenge 0:12:05.529,0:12:08.090 is that what you and the audience in 0:12:08.090,0:12:11.670 students and young people have faced in this a rest your lifetimes 0:12:11.670,0:12:15.080 far greater than that we face is in terms of economic growth 0:12:15.080,0:12:16.880 the nationalistic years 0:12:16.880,0:12:19.470 and that's why education is so vitally important 0:12:19.470,0:12:23.530 now is it and why it's so unfair for us to tell you that you're education important his 0:12:23.530,0:12:27.069 much of it is possible to show a little hope you and of the society 0:12:27.069,0:12:27.710 Israel 0:12:27.710,0:12:29.270 when I got to pay for 0:12:29.270,0:12:31.490 and the devil report on students in the 0:12:31.490,0:12:33.430 they're invest in education 0:12:33.430,0:12:38.000 and the need to reinvest sort of early childhood education 0:12:38.000,0:12:41.520 you can hear the appropriate smaller class sizes 0:12:41.520,0:12:44.310 and higher education make it affordable 0:12:44.310,0:12:49.190 isn't very much the key to minnesota's future economic and social success 0:12:49.190,0:12:50.110 thank you 0:12:50.110,0:12:52.539 so ten years and one minute let's give it a try 0:12:52.539,0:12:57.050 you know I think that said the the he really does highlight the fundamental difference 0:12:57.050,0:13:00.990 when you have two candidates who are we looking in the rear-view mirror to say 0:13:00.990,0:13:04.149 let's use the same solutions that failed in the past 0:13:04.149,0:13:07.470 let's use the same solutions that have created the political gridlock 0:13:07.470,0:13:10.279 let's get ourselves lock into just taxing the wealthy 0:13:10.279,0:13:11.880 we're just cutting the spending 0:13:11.880,0:13:14.720 it's going to be very hard to create ten years 0:13:14.720,0:13:15.310 forward 0:13:15.310,0:13:17.400 but a much different from kenya in the past 0:13:17.400,0:13:19.250 I think that's what we have to decide 0:13:19.250,0:13:24.220 the challenge for us is to fundamentally change the relationship between all of us 0:13:24.220,0:13:25.710 and government 0:13:25.710,0:13:28.000 and how to reconnect we can act 0:13:28.000,0:13:29.300 all of minnesotans 0:13:29.300,0:13:31.949 that public policy that decision making 0:13:31.949,0:13:35.369 if we allow twenty percent over here twenty percent over the air 0:13:35.369,0:13:37.410 to control the political debate 0:13:37.410,0:13:39.740 we're going to continue to have the same problem 0:13:39.740,0:13:42.120 this is an opportunity to do something different 0:13:42.120,0:13:45.009 to elect a leader who's going to engage all missiles 0:13:45.009,0:13:46.380 in creative solutions 0:13:46.380,0:13:49.699 in figuring out a new relationship between also and government 0:13:49.699,0:13:50.410 and a month 0:13:50.410,0:13:51.990 all of us together 0:13:51.990,0:13:55.900 that's our challenge that our opportunity 0:13:55.900,0:13:57.320 mister Mark first follow-up 0:13:57.320,0:14:02.339 with few at many minnesotans that majority of minnesota's identified with one of the 0:14:02.339,0:14:05.639 two major parties actually look to the party's war 0:14:05.639,0:14:09.300 solutions so could you be a little bit more specific about to how would you specifically 0:14:09.300,0:14:11.420 would connect citizens to their government 0:14:11.420,0:14:14.360 with our highest of bringing people together 0:14:14.360,0:14:16.320 with a pre-existing credit and physician 0:14:16.320,0:14:17.230 sure and I think the 0:14:17.230,0:14:19.259 the the first answer to that is 0:14:19.259,0:14:21.500 and how's the work so far with the two parties 0:14:21.500,0:14:24.839 I mean have we move things forward every broken through the gridlock 0:14:24.839,0:14:26.879 and so we can act I connect 0:14:26.879,0:14:30.400 because that's what I've done in my community service career in my professional career 0:14:30.400,0:14:32.559 and I think we do it for spite 0:14:32.559,0:14:34.850 making sure that we have a terrific cabinet 0:14:34.850,0:14:38.970 mean governor of the bank for was very successful in his first two years 0:14:38.970,0:14:42.429 did it in part because he had a great cabinet and I think that's the first step 0:14:42.429,0:14:44.820 but the second step is that you can't 0:14:44.820,0:14:47.150 breast solutions you can't build to allusions 0:14:47.150,0:14:49.720 the only in the democratic and republican party 0:14:49.720,0:14:51.120 we have to have a governor 0:14:51.120,0:14:53.480 who can talk over the heads of the legislature 0:14:53.480,0:14:55.089 who can engage the public 0:14:55.089,0:14:58.410 who's willing to bring the public who's going to listen to the public 0:14:58.410,0:15:02.700 that's what I've done my whole career I think it is the only way that we're going to move 0:15:02.700,0:15:04.200 minnesota forward 0:15:04.200,0:15:08.330 thank you for coming in and if I could follow up in your answer can you be more specific 0:15:08.330,0:15:10.210 about the role of the state government 0:15:10.210,0:15:12.879 and advancing economic growth and job creation 0:15:12.879,0:15:15.050 have some absolutely been a hectic 0:15:15.050,0:15:19.890 the way out started after listen my colleague is really this in catherine your questions 0:15:19.890,0:15:24.410 this election really isn't about being a republican or a democrat turned independent it's about 0:15:24.410,0:15:25.560 common sense 0:15:25.560,0:15:31.070 but you can't just make promises that to everybody about everything that mister morning 0:15:31.070,0:15:35.110 you've actually sit here to protect eighty five percent of what that government says 0:15:35.110,0:15:37.240 it wants to grow the seventeen percent 0:15:37.240,0:15:40.700 you've got two and a half billion dollar hole in your budget you can't promise everything 0:15:40.700,0:15:43.380 that is everybody and that men that deliver 0:15:43.380,0:15:45.229 what we're talking about he is 0:15:45.229,0:15:49.339 government will have about seventy percent more that three billion almost more to spend 0:15:49.339,0:15:50.620 the next by any 0:15:50.620,0:15:54.740 you gotta make sure that lives within its means and then we get to the tax stimulation 0:15:54.740,0:15:57.490 stuff there the %uh tax instead of things that we talked about 0:15:57.490,0:16:00.119 the corporate franchise tax will put roughly 0:16:00.119,0:16:04.059 three hundred sixty million of the the hands of business is to start hiring to make the 0:16:04.059,0:16:05.809 capital purchases in the next two years 0:16:05.809,0:16:08.040 the ten percent exclusion on small business 0:16:08.040,0:16:11.949 we'll give small business owners about a hundred sixty million next two years the higher and 0:16:11.949,0:16:16.020 I can go on but it's the end done but the idea is to start getting them the high gear 0:16:16.020,0:16:19.180 new people like the people in this room 0:16:19.180,0:16:23.730 and Senator dayton if I could ask you the same question focused on the role of higher 0:16:23.730,0:16:26.750 education on in growing economy and that certainly important 0:16:26.750,0:16:28.700 how about the government plan 0:16:28.700,0:16:32.070 the serb forces those commissioner of economic development 0:16:32.070,0:16:36.750 and we provided the incentives for businesses particularly manufacturing businesses to locate 0:16:36.750,0:16:38.590 a expand in minnesota 0:16:38.590,0:16:41.190 well that was possessed will do everything 0:16:41.190,0:16:42.570 never did save jobs 0:16:42.570,0:16:45.630 well I suppose the moving up the next January 0:16:45.630,0:16:49.200 eight billion dollar bond and built in advantage of low interest rates 0:16:49.200,0:16:52.220 %uh one city is that there's such a bill with the 0:16:52.220,0:16:56.970 of finances twenty eight thousand jobs in the construction industry and the among the 0:16:56.970,0:16:59.329 building trades in minnesota where high unemployment 0:16:59.329,0:17:01.119 now the proposed a green 0:17:01.119,0:17:02.450 energy savings fund 0:17:02.450,0:17:05.020 or by what the person is sort of morals 0:17:05.020,0:17:09.140 where they've represented the buildings for more the fishing energy use that puts people 0:17:09.140,0:17:10.709 to work and their 0:17:10.709,0:17:14.980 also a record that the heating and cooling systems use alternative energy the lower the 0:17:14.980,0:17:17.230 cost of energy for taxpayers 0:17:17.230,0:17:18.709 and the say those dollars 0:17:18.709,0:17:21.000 well as developing alternative energy and 0:17:21.000,0:17:22.110 industry in minnesota 0:17:22.110,0:17:26.120 which is going to be the at the energy future of our state and would get people to work 0:17:26.120,0:17:30.410 and and that is three for a decade to come 0:17:30.410,0:17:32.980 now oxycontin are third question 0:17:32.980,0:17:36.940 each of you will have one minute to respond to start weapons from Saturday to hear 0:17:36.940,0:17:40.850 rapidly rising health care costs comprising growing share of the budget 0:17:40.850,0:17:44.490 and also make it difficult for many in minnesota to afford health care 0:17:44.490,0:17:46.450 what would you look do as governor 0:17:46.450,0:17:50.039 to prevent health care costs from crowding out the rest of the budget 0:17:50.039,0:17:53.370 while still ensuring that minnesotans have all the help that 0:17:53.370,0:17:58.350 the first thing I would do and generous personal governors finally up Medicaid 0:17:58.350,0:18:02.690 of the two hundred eighty billion dollars additional state spending over three years 0:18:02.690,0:18:06.820 which is already been included in the budget for the next by name but for governor and 0:18:06.820,0:18:07.640 legislature 0:18:07.640,0:18:12.360 and that would bring in of one point four billion dollars lines with the governor Clinton's 0:18:12.360,0:18:16.100 first taken up those in refers it's almost a million dollars a day 0:18:16.100,0:18:17.450 terribly unfortunate 0:18:17.450,0:18:22.110 %uh and that would provide health insurance for all who want one hundred two thousand 0:18:22.110,0:18:23.590 missiles the poorest of the poor 0:18:23.590,0:18:25.540 and also heard from earlier provide 0:18:25.540,0:18:30.290 the financial security to of minnesota hospitals all over the state so that they can provide 0:18:30.290,0:18:33.190 a quality care they do for older persons 0:18:33.190,0:18:36.790 beyond that we need to look at this as an entire society the cost of health insurance 0:18:36.790,0:18:38.630 in the cost of health care 0:18:38.630,0:18:41.050 even for those who has insurance as you said 0:18:41.050,0:18:45.060 he's just making both a unaffordable for increasing numbers of muslims 0:18:45.060,0:18:49.720 and yet and also served as a result heard from any of the fifty thousand has something 0:18:49.720,0:18:52.000 gone from private insurers the public a 0:18:52.000,0:18:58.429 the rules over the last decade of last year in that also drive up the cost 0:18:58.429,0:19:01.159 well I think this isn't exactly exactly and area 0:19:01.159,0:19:03.450 where we need to be innovative we need to be able 0:19:03.450,0:19:08.140 old and yet we get the same pair dancers of either go to a single-payer senate dayton 0:19:08.140,0:19:10.570 has %uh 0:19:10.570,0:19:11.460 to change 0:19:11.460,0:19:13.620 to a voucher system a charity care system 0:19:13.620,0:19:15.590 I don't think either of those are going to work 0:19:15.590,0:19:20.779 we do need to build on what is working in minnesota we ought to go to the early optimism 0:19:20.779,0:19:21.799 the suggested 0:19:21.799,0:19:23.379 but those aren't the only answer is 0:19:23.379,0:19:27.279 we need to figure out how to we drive health care reform at the community level 0:19:27.279,0:19:28.750 I will engage people 0:19:28.750,0:19:29.919 so that example 0:19:29.919,0:19:34.379 the department of health decided that it would help kids from low-income families who have 0:19:34.379,0:19:35.139 that amount 0:19:35.139,0:19:37.840 one of the great drivers of emergency room news 0:19:37.840,0:19:39.090 they got involved 0:19:39.090,0:19:41.530 in fixing some of the upstream issues 0:19:41.530,0:19:43.800 helping parents deal with some of the traitors 0:19:43.800,0:19:44.610 in the end 0:19:44.610,0:19:49.200 they were able to reduce the emergency room whose reduce health care costs an average 0:19:49.200,0:19:50.669 of two thousand dollars 0:19:50.669,0:19:53.249 per child per year but more than that 0:19:53.249,0:19:58.090 they were able to reduce will absences by an average of seven days per year 0:19:58.090,0:20:00.360 that's the achievement gap keeping those kids in 0:20:00.360,0:20:02.030 all keeping them healthy 0:20:02.030,0:20:03.500 reducing our health care costs 0:20:03.500,0:20:04.760 I 0:20:04.760,0:20:06.610 catherine this is much more complicated 0:20:06.610,0:20:10.090 that situation would take a minute but very quickly some things that we could do right 0:20:10.090,0:20:11.540 away we should do want 0:20:11.540,0:20:15.340 the couple are health clinic insurance coverage from employment 0:20:15.340,0:20:19.040 give individuals the same opportunity that their health care insurance premiums that 0:20:19.040,0:20:21.200 we only get the employer's right now 0:20:21.200,0:20:25.570 to we need to create more pulling up ships that not just with people at a that might 0:20:25.570,0:20:27.630 be same of similarly situated 0:20:27.630,0:20:32.100 but with greater groups of people and we've got to give choice the folks to start working 0:20:32.100,0:20:36.129 with one of the three to four thousand professional insurance brokers that we have in this state 0:20:36.129,0:20:38.540 the taylor coverage to meet their needs 0:20:38.540,0:20:42.880 and then third or fourth depending on whether you thought that was to ideas and one 0:20:42.880,0:20:47.030 you got to give people the opportunity to shop one of the thirteen hundred 0:20:47.030,0:20:49.600 approved health insurance products across this country 0:20:49.600,0:20:53.630 you get people more ownership over their health care you get the more of an opportunity 0:20:53.630,0:20:57.780 they will take that opportunity and it will drive down costs but we don't 0:20:57.780,0:21:02.090 the latest returns came in the mid-nineteen forties the surgery was very expensive 0:21:02.090,0:21:06.039 it's not a mandated coverage it's something where people have to compete to date 0:21:06.039,0:21:09.670 you can find these surgery for about four hundred fifty dollars 0:21:09.670,0:21:13.760 but affect popular son minnesota worked with the federal government 0:21:13.760,0:21:14.650 %uh on 0:21:14.650,0:21:17.340 the new health care plan force in minnesota visit that 0:21:17.340,0:21:21.880 well the I think we'll find out night after November second what the status is at the 0:21:21.880,0:21:23.950 federal level like I don't think he ever say 0:21:23.950,0:21:27.290 but you're not going to work with the %uh federal government that 0:21:27.290,0:21:31.770 that that that plan that just finding out how serious it is and and what the consequences 0:21:31.770,0:21:32.220 are 0:21:32.220,0:21:36.210 I think you're going to see some major changes to the in the meantime we got a look at these 0:21:36.210,0:21:38.090 ideas that talked about at the state level 0:21:38.090,0:21:42.680 we have the best quality health care offered ever a in the world hearing and so there's 0:21:42.680,0:21:44.179 a reason why people 0:21:44.179,0:21:45.290 flying in minnesota 0:21:45.290,0:21:48.380 access to great mayo clinic and other providers we have in this state 0:21:48.380,0:21:50.809 we also have access as you've heard 0:21:50.809,0:21:54.409 if people go to an emergency room they're going to get treated but we all agree 0:21:54.409,0:21:58.059 that's not the best delivery system for health care it's the most expensive 0:21:58.059,0:22:01.440 so the idea is doing some of these reforms so we can actually create 0:22:01.440,0:22:05.570 some market forces to drive cost down to create better access 0:22:05.570,0:22:10.480 %uh mister barr particular politics briefly on the question of working with the federal 0:22:10.480,0:22:10.950 government 0:22:10.950,0:22:11.990 on health care reform 0:22:11.990,0:22:15.580 well I I do think we need to do work with the federal government we need to figure out 0:22:15.580,0:22:16.869 how the leverage that 0:22:16.869,0:22:19.460 for lower cost higher-quality care in minnesota 0:22:19.460,0:22:22.240 and I think we've lost a number of opportunities 0:22:22.240,0:22:25.220 representative ever talks about the competitive marketplace 0:22:25.220,0:22:25.840 don't know 0:22:25.840,0:22:28.340 just bringing in a lot more insurance companies 0:22:28.340,0:22:30.670 doesn't reduce prices 0:22:30.670,0:22:32.080 north Dakota has 0:22:32.080,0:22:32.940 on the left 0:22:32.940,0:22:34.390 per person 0:22:34.390,0:22:36.510 for member cost in the country 0:22:36.510,0:22:38.660 the dissension has one insurance company 0:22:38.660,0:22:42.460 now that's not the answer but neither is open the floodgates to an insurance company that 0:22:42.460,0:22:47.200 wants to do business I think we do need to look at things like the insurance exchange 0:22:47.200,0:22:51.630 that the federal government I'm has has made available made available planning money 0:22:51.630,0:22:54.090 we're minnesota could use it's expertise 0:22:54.090,0:22:58.300 to make sure that we do have more choices that we have competitive choices 0:22:58.300,0:23:00.120 the reality is that 0:23:00.120,0:23:01.990 I believe this is right 0:23:01.990,0:23:04.930 every state accepted the plan and money 0:23:04.930,0:23:06.380 except through 0:23:06.380,0:23:07.040 minnesota 0:23:07.040,0:23:08.890 and the left out 0:23:08.890,0:23:11.660 and I think that speaks to the politics of the issue 0:23:11.660,0:23:15.460 we've got to get past the politics of health reform 0:23:15.460,0:23:19.070 of course as governor you work with the federal government that I would say the same thing 0:23:19.070,0:23:22.710 a republican President a democratic President so of course of that 0:23:22.710,0:23:25.159 the when he was chosen play politics with 0:23:25.159,0:23:28.820 we're tearing that distribute to of personal Obama won 0:23:28.820,0:23:32.090 Medicaid is passed when frozen Obama was four years old 0:23:32.090,0:23:36.280 and the the governor's impress what is causing of minnesota almost a million dollars the 0:23:36.280,0:23:39.350 about eight hundred ninety thousand dollars the jury a day 0:23:39.350,0:23:40.210 I'm not too 0:23:40.210,0:23:42.070 except in the early afternoon Medicaid 0:23:42.070,0:23:46.910 so it'd be if we get beyond the politics then we in state government in minnesota's mister 0:23:46.910,0:23:48.560 which has been a leader 0:23:48.560,0:23:52.230 and other states to pass it looked in and saw where one of the best health care system 0:23:52.230,0:23:53.760 in the country say 0:23:53.760,0:23:57.210 how minnesota approach these these critical problems and 0:23:57.210,0:24:00.259 we should restore that leadership position among the states 0:24:00.259,0:24:04.259 you're working with the for the federal government is a lot of this is undefined and it will 0:24:04.259,0:24:07.030 depend on how the city's take the various initiatives 0:24:07.030,0:24:11.170 and the goal should be to provide the best possible health care for since citizens in 0:24:11.170,0:24:12.709 the storm's Americans 0:24:12.709,0:24:15.860 and affordable cost 0:24:15.860,0:24:18.250 next question turns to transportation 0:24:18.250,0:24:20.480 transportation issue that affects Paul minnesota 0:24:20.480,0:24:25.030 the transportation fund decisions have different consequences in different areas of the state 0:24:25.030,0:24:26.740 given the limited resources 0:24:26.740,0:24:28.840 what would you prioritize 0:24:28.840,0:24:30.940 expansion of matsumoto that 0:24:30.940,0:24:34.120 the repair and maintenance of existing roads and infrastructure 0:24:34.120,0:24:35.070 or the building 0:24:35.070,0:24:36.220 but new routes 0:24:36.220,0:24:38.460 I'm sure we'll start with out 0:24:38.460,0:24:40.910 well I think that brings the question correctly 0:24:40.910,0:24:42.340 no I don't I don't think that it's 0:24:42.340,0:24:44.590 you keep that all of this are all of that 0:24:44.590,0:24:49.679 I think you have to said different all comes and the outcomes we need to work against are 0:24:49.679,0:24:53.590 what creates the greatest economic opportunities in minnesota 0:24:53.590,0:24:56.169 and they're going to be different answers for different needs 0:24:56.169,0:24:57.990 but we have to set priorities 0:24:57.990,0:25:00.249 and then figure out how we fund those 0:25:00.249,0:25:03.239 and so the them of minnesota department of transportation 0:25:03.239,0:25:05.700 has that in the next thirty five twenty years 0:25:05.700,0:25:10.309 we will need sixty five billion dollars to maintain current capacity of highways and 0:25:10.309,0:25:11.000 bridges 0:25:11.000,0:25:13.480 they've identified fifteen billion dollars 0:25:13.480,0:25:15.570 now the old way of doing politics 0:25:15.570,0:25:19.750 the way that we've seen in the legislature the way we've seen with democratic and republican 0:25:19.750,0:25:23.880 leadership of in the legislature is you take fifteen billion dollars to buy the by two 0:25:23.880,0:25:26.380 hundred one the number of legislative districts 0:25:26.380,0:25:30.830 you do a little bit everywhere and not a lot but not very well anywhere 0:25:30.830,0:25:32.060 that's what we can afford 0:25:32.060,0:25:34.390 and it's only I believe an independent 0:25:34.390,0:25:38.570 who can bring all of these different interest groups together so that we can invest in France 0:25:38.570,0:25:44.120 that we can invest in a strong highway and bridge system 0:25:44.120,0:25:45.330 our kids are 0:25:45.330,0:25:47.809 well at the you get a look at moving 0:25:47.809,0:25:49.830 people and product that's the key 0:25:49.830,0:25:52.700 I mean you've got to set your priorities you're right 0:25:52.700,0:25:57.740 to date ninety five percent of the people in this state travel by road and bridge 0:25:57.740,0:26:02.640 we can work our tails off over the next ten years that in double transit ridership in 0:26:02.640,0:26:03.690 this state 0:26:03.690,0:26:07.940 but even that ninety percent of us will be traveling by road and bridge we need to set 0:26:07.940,0:26:11.360 our priorities we need to look at every transportation a option 0:26:11.360,0:26:14.320 and we need to find those priorities of this they act 0:26:14.320,0:26:17.390 by the going back to last question real quick 0:26:17.390,0:26:20.809 when it comes to health care in this state if the question what a bindle I believe in 0:26:20.809,0:26:23.289 a government-run health care system 0:26:23.289,0:26:24.130 absolutely not 0:26:24.130,0:26:25.750 and these two gentlemen do 0:26:25.750,0:26:29.710 we have a fundamental disagreement and it's not about opening up the state of minnesota 0:26:29.710,0:26:31.400 for flood insurance companies 0:26:31.400,0:26:33.360 it's about starting to trust you 0:26:33.360,0:26:35.029 and high that people again 0:26:35.029,0:26:38.460 to make decisions about our own health care instead of turning it over 0:26:38.460,0:26:42.479 the federal government when it and we don't have enough money to support itself 0:26:42.479,0:26:46.350 it's also about going into a diligent since then about forty two fingers 0:26:46.350,0:26:49.260 for on a ticket together poll that you can understand 0:26:49.260,0:26:53.929 it's going to cost the state a half a billion dollars to do the early Medicaid a op again 0:26:53.929,0:26:58.260 and that's not responsible and the numbers we have right now 0:26:58.260,0:27:02.960 like many for the question of transportation because the filibuster 0:27:02.960,0:27:04.580 forty four debates so far 0:27:04.580,0:27:08.900 and it's one of the crucial issues that affected the future minnesota and talk about business 0:27:08.900,0:27:10.920 climate importance of that 0:27:10.920,0:27:14.460 transportation that President look if you want 0:27:14.460,0:27:18.890 real world example what happens the government fails to make mister investments over the 0:27:18.890,0:27:20.039 last twenty years 0:27:20.039,0:27:24.730 look at the congestion in the palm area that you're a shiver highways greater minnesota 0:27:24.730,0:27:28.100 and was that we spent the same lot of money in real dollars 0:27:28.100,0:27:31.910 over those twenty years we did in nineteen ninety one to spend fifteen billion dollars 0:27:31.910,0:27:32.520 more 0:27:32.520,0:27:35.190 and and that we would be in much better shape today 0:27:35.190,0:27:37.260 now or seriously in arrears 0:27:37.260,0:27:41.980 and and how the necessity I would put the investment into just basic repair and maintenance 0:27:41.980,0:27:44.250 of our network of highways and 0:27:44.250,0:27:48.630 roads and bridges a and public transit to carry that forward and interest on the part 0:27:48.630,0:27:50.050 of the November said for 0:27:50.050,0:27:54.400 but in a sort of highways are essential and continuing the names of those going to be 0:27:54.400,0:27:54.789 crucial 0:27:54.789,0:27:57.460 we also need to be looking for ways we can 0:27:57.460,0:28:02.570 of believe the congestion in the metro area restaurants site for economic growth and social 0:28:02.570,0:28:04.690 vitality 0:28:04.690,0:28:11.690 think you all for these responses we will now take three right 0:28:14.000,0:28:15.000 is governor 0:28:15.000,0:28:16.679 would you support the adoption 0:28:16.679,0:28:20.830 of the measure similar to arizona's new immigration enforcement lot 0:28:20.830,0:28:22.760 why or why not 0:28:22.760,0:28:24.419 we're starting here with representative 0:28:24.419,0:28:29.070 I think we get campaign laws in the state of minnesota right now which is to enforce 0:28:29.070,0:28:30.270 the laws we have been 0:28:30.270,0:28:34.700 I want to ask you catherine I did say last spring that I thought that the years on a 0:28:34.700,0:28:36.120 lot was a good start 0:28:36.120,0:28:40.950 and a lot of people didn't get the rest of the interesting answer is because the federal 0:28:40.950,0:28:43.090 government media in this country 0:28:43.090,0:28:47.500 has jurisdiction over immigration frankly they've completely abdicated 0:28:47.500,0:28:48.820 their responsibility 0:28:48.820,0:28:54.120 to secure our borders and make sure that we haven't orderly inflow of it and legal immigrants 0:28:54.120,0:28:58.740 but let's face it if this country ever comes out and sees a day when people do not want 0:28:58.740,0:28:59.669 to come here 0:28:59.669,0:29:03.500 to experience the freedom and opportunity that the united states is post office that 0:29:03.500,0:29:04.760 we've all lost 0:29:04.760,0:29:09.610 so the idea is I think thought that that law would get the federal government off it's 0:29:09.610,0:29:11.980 an off the dime and start working towards 0:29:11.980,0:29:12.900 it's all being 0:29:12.900,0:29:17.570 the border problem in the inflow of illegal immigrants but so far it seems 0:29:17.570,0:29:22.080 but we're continuing to see people dragged their feet in Washington and I think the next 0:29:22.080,0:29:25.180 governor in this state along with several other steps to encourage the federal government 0:29:25.180,0:29:28.630 to do the job 0:29:28.630,0:29:30.590 one is a terrible horror 0:29:30.590,0:29:33.290 and the federal government has the 0:29:33.290,0:29:38.460 constitutional responsibility 0:29:38.460,0:29:41.290 her husband's his responsibility and 0:29:41.290,0:29:45.130 no I was in Washington during the time when President Bush said had been the former governor 0:29:45.130,0:29:46.769 a former state police 0:29:46.769,0:29:49.270 there was very close before nine eleven 0:29:49.270,0:29:53.110 you're reach an agreement with the the congress and then that was sent back in and 0:29:53.110,0:29:55.930 of in two thousand five the the into that 0:29:55.930,0:29:59.140 sixty two conditions again and the 0:29:59.140,0:30:03.669 bipartisan though Senator ted Kennedy Senator John McCain we came together and was absolutely 0:30:03.669,0:30:04.610 no 0:30:04.610,0:30:08.960 blown apart by the right-wing ideologue soon to say that the congress dragged its feet 0:30:08.960,0:30:11.920 amid an unknown the ideology of has been preventing 0:30:11.920,0:30:15.530 and that those emissions he wanted to take it does the be a federal 0:30:15.530,0:30:16.059 solution 0:30:16.059,0:30:19.999 and in reference hairs on a particular you know the the former police in chief and mean 0:30:19.999,0:30:24.360 of saint Paul and recent evening happens in the current police chiefs and Paul bowles 0:30:24.360,0:30:25.610 said 0:30:25.610,0:30:30.700 public safety affected reading the policing the seriously destructive by the reports there's 0:30:30.700,0:30:32.970 no was taken 0:30:32.970,0:30:34.310 thank you stuart 0:30:34.310,0:30:35.820 I don't think it's a good law 0:30:35.820,0:30:38.190 I never thought that I was going to be an answer 0:30:38.190,0:30:41.419 and I think it's exactly the kind of of of issue 0:30:41.419,0:30:46.500 the traditional politicians used to drive wedges instead of bringing people together 0:30:46.500,0:30:47.990 all one needs to do 0:30:47.990,0:30:48.780 he's walked out 0:30:48.780,0:30:49.900 only street 0:30:49.900,0:30:53.440 walked on university avenue walked on been an arcade 0:30:53.440,0:30:56.190 and see what new minnesotans have brought to this speech 0:30:56.190,0:30:58.340 in terms of their entrepreneurial it's a 0:30:58.340,0:30:59.590 their vitality 0:30:59.590,0:31:02.020 how they're investing in those communities 0:31:02.020,0:31:06.450 should everybody be here illegally of course and and we certainly need to help secure borders 0:31:06.450,0:31:08.099 we certainly need to make sure 0:31:08.099,0:31:11.590 the were working with employers to make sure that they're hiring 0:31:11.590,0:31:13.830 people were are documented 0:31:13.830,0:31:18.220 well we don't need to be a state that says were going to divide some from others 0:31:18.220,0:31:20.169 we need to welcome them in a cell 0:31:20.169,0:31:22.169 and I think that goes a step further 0:31:22.169,0:31:24.989 we need a governor who's willing to speak to that issue 0:31:24.989,0:31:27.700 we need a governor who's willing to stand up and say 0:31:27.700,0:31:32.790 but the minnesota chamber of commerce is right we don't need english only language classes 0:31:32.790,0:31:39.150 or of restrictions we need classes that help people become Americans 0:31:39.150,0:31:43.800 think it's important to remember just to be clear about if the minnesota legislature presented 0:31:43.800,0:31:45.179 you with this law 0:31:45.179,0:31:46.490 would you sign it is that 0:31:46.490,0:31:49.050 I don't think you can see that more importantly 0:31:49.050,0:31:53.889 by getting back to whether what mister vargas said I couldn't disagree more 0:31:53.889,0:31:58.869 I absolutely do believe and I think we've just had the same thing that for some reason 0:31:58.869,0:32:02.889 you know I don't know why people on what tactics state like Arizona in judge what they're doing 0:32:02.889,0:32:04.970 down there where they've got a serious problem 0:32:04.970,0:32:11.010 with that illegal immigration and people leading and having that series public safety problem 0:32:11.010,0:32:15.269 does a lot more it make you sad that governor they're trying to honor their commitments 0:32:15.269,0:32:19.559 their constitutional obligation for the public safety of people in Arizona but that's the 0:32:19.559,0:32:20.190 result 0:32:20.190,0:32:22.790 in minnesota I think we all just said the same thing 0:32:22.790,0:32:27.100 you've got this celebrate the ideal that people are going to keep coming to the state of minnesota 0:32:27.100,0:32:29.470 to enjoy the freedom and opportunity we have 0:32:29.470,0:32:33.710 but mister porter to suggest that we should have all kinds of different languages we want 0:32:33.710,0:32:34.149 people 0:32:34.149,0:32:36.940 to celebrate their culture their tradition and history 0:32:36.940,0:32:40.669 we want them to maintain that but we also want them to assimilate into 0:32:40.669,0:32:44.690 the state of minnesota become productive members of our community and I think 0:32:44.690,0:32:47.639 and we should be our language 0:32:47.639,0:32:49.450 and represented of them are 0:32:49.450,0:32:52.710 well if we're going to start to to do after all lines 0:32:52.710,0:32:55.230 then let's go back and look at your your real cold 0:32:55.230,0:32:57.580 because what he did say and was repeated 0:32:57.580,0:32:58.770 is that not 0:32:58.770,0:33:02.130 just that that law was a good first step for Arizona 0:33:02.130,0:33:04.009 but you shed can you repeat it 0:33:04.009,0:33:06.470 that you wanted that law from minnesota 0:33:06.470,0:33:07.929 and that was the fact that 0:33:07.929,0:33:09.270 and we can look it up 0:33:09.270,0:33:13.179 and we'll see if the full quote in contact bring that lot of minnesota 0:33:13.179,0:33:15.360 a fundamentally disagree with that 0:33:15.360,0:33:18.230 well I think that we ought to have everybody speaking english 0:33:18.230,0:33:19.550 of course 0:33:19.550,0:33:25.130 but you don't get their by seven lost that they were going to excludes you from society 0:33:25.130,0:33:26.899 if you're unable to speak english 0:33:26.899,0:33:31.980 you get there by saying were going to make the investment in bringing you into society 0:33:31.980,0:33:35.190 in making english language classes available to people 0:33:35.190,0:33:36.630 in doing the right thing 0:33:36.630,0:33:40.719 in being of society that doesn't just talk about equality 0:33:40.719,0:33:47.490 but pulls out and works for and that's the role of the government 0:33:47.490,0:33:51.370 okay 0:33:51.370,0:33:55.380 always looking for new York city I thought of that was what was second language of that 0:33:55.380,0:33:56.179 than we have 0:33:56.179,0:34:01.179 for governmental languages his coolness over another poll ninety five languages and dialects 0:34:01.179,0:34:02.140 into our state 0:34:02.140,0:34:02.910 so yes I would agree 0:34:02.910,0:34:05.110 we want to give everyone the opportunity 0:34:05.110,0:34:09.559 to learn english it because the dolby morse successful those facts are 0:34:09.559,0:34:12.750 the socio-economic lead by by doing so on as 0:34:12.750,0:34:15.970 why we need better education system one that welcomes the 0:34:15.970,0:34:20.190 people from all over the country all over the world to to minnesota and gives them the 0:34:20.190,0:34:23.269 opportunity with small classes and individual attention 0:34:23.269,0:34:27.449 you're gay men agreed in the skills that they need and it's worth of or the wilson international 0:34:27.449,0:34:28.820 school on she'll 0:34:28.820,0:34:31.360 so proud of that school teacher in their name 0:34:31.360,0:34:32.389 where are you 0:34:32.389,0:34:36.619 kids who came to know sort of with never had any formal education is teenagers 0:34:36.619,0:34:40.460 are graduating nineteen twenty twenty one twenty two years old 0:34:40.460,0:34:45.330 having had the opportunity that every child of minnesota young adults that minnesota 0:34:45.330,0:34:48.189 realizes the ripples potential 0:34:48.189,0:34:52.029 I moving on to the next question fact your news Saturday 0:34:52.029,0:34:56.630 the quality of higher education affects minnesota's workforce economy 0:34:56.630,0:34:58.289 industry and cultural life 0:34:58.289,0:35:00.399 it's a tough partisan declining 0:35:00.399,0:35:04.660 last week university of ministers the university of minnesota officials 0:35:04.660,0:35:07.609 unveiled a budget proposal requesting one point three billion 0:35:07.609,0:35:09.939 in state funding over the next five years 0:35:09.939,0:35:13.319 it was important in the minnesota daily university President 0:35:13.319,0:35:15.059 Bob ricks said 0:35:15.059,0:35:18.069 if we continue this have at this investment 0:35:18.069,0:35:19.839 it'll be close to impossible 0:35:19.839,0:35:21.039 to rebuild 0:35:21.039,0:35:22.479 the cost of rebuilding 0:35:22.479,0:35:27.559 the cost of catching up if we make a wrong call right now will be extraordinarily high 0:35:27.559,0:35:28.809 for the university 0:35:28.809,0:35:30.459 in for the minnesota 0:35:30.459,0:35:31.010 governor 0:35:31.010,0:35:36.479 what would you do to ensure a quality public higher education went forward 0:35:36.479,0:35:38.390 the personal great actor 0:35:38.390,0:35:42.079 very first question next governor and legislature want her to five point eight billion dollar 0:35:42.079,0:35:43.289 debt 0:35:43.289,0:35:47.400 before even had initially personally a university sort of however 0:35:47.400,0:35:49.810 well it is and I was twenty one of my goal 0:35:49.810,0:35:51.690 also have to balance that budget 0:35:51.690,0:35:54.719 and also a recognize that as we go forward 0:35:54.719,0:35:58.169 that state fails to make these investments the results partnership 0:35:58.169,0:36:01.570 and that's the reason that %uh commissioner your public colleges 0:36:01.570,0:36:03.199 third highest nation 0:36:03.199,0:36:06.649 Christian group university of minnesota's fifty percent higher than the average of the 0:36:06.649,0:36:08.959 state universities and thrown in four states 0:36:08.959,0:36:11.989 when they retire the next highest the university of Wisconsin 0:36:11.989,0:36:14.069 so we need to recognize this is %uh 0:36:14.069,0:36:15.100 President nixon 0:36:15.100,0:36:18.530 they're without the the state of minnesota making these investments equality is going 0:36:18.530,0:36:22.019 to suffer of affordability is going to become more is to worse 0:36:22.019,0:36:25.950 in sake of state university of of minnesota think you don't 0:36:25.950,0:36:29.999 have of cut fourteen and seventeen percent of the faculty respectively 0:36:29.999,0:36:32.529 for this coming year it's just devastating 0:36:32.529,0:36:36.099 of the quality of education that could be offered as for if you're over students who 0:36:36.099,0:36:39.900 need those opportunities 0:36:39.900,0:36:43.239 well I I think again this is another question of leadership 0:36:43.239,0:36:47.279 this is another question of how do we get their because I think we all would agree that 0:36:47.279,0:36:50.509 higher education has to be a priority for minnesota 0:36:50.509,0:36:55.249 the challenges in the context of the shortfall that is twenty percent of the state's operating 0:36:55.249,0:36:56.599 budget how do we get there 0:36:56.599,0:36:58.780 as of next year look at the opportunities 0:36:58.780,0:37:00.660 a new President of the university 0:37:00.660,0:37:04.220 a new chancellor minnesota state colleges and universities 0:37:04.220,0:37:05.519 in a new governor 0:37:05.519,0:37:07.890 we need to use that as an opportunity 0:37:07.890,0:37:09.630 you have a conversation 0:37:09.630,0:37:14.009 around priority what's the outcome we need to be willing to put everything on the table 0:37:14.009,0:37:15.719 we need a realignment of systems 0:37:15.719,0:37:19.580 how do we protect our great to your community in vocational schools 0:37:19.580,0:37:23.360 how do we make sure that our for your schools are doing what we need of them 0:37:23.360,0:37:24.760 is it the right way 0:37:24.760,0:37:28.810 they have are for your schools offering three hundred four hundred five hundred different 0:37:28.810,0:37:29.250 majors 0:37:29.250,0:37:31.030 what should we go to some of accidents 0:37:31.030,0:37:34.730 and how do we truly make a world-class research university 0:37:34.730,0:37:36.690 on this campus rapes here 0:37:36.690,0:37:37.730 accept the outcome 0:37:37.730,0:37:40.070 have a leader who's going to have the conversation 0:37:40.070,0:37:41.970 and put everything on the table 0:37:41.970,0:37:45.489 then we can decide where we and how we found it 0:37:45.489,0:37:46.499 I 0:37:46.499,0:37:50.489 well it's time to get past the conversation time to be responsible 0:37:50.489,0:37:51.949 night let's face it 0:37:51.949,0:37:52.910 you can't 0:37:52.910,0:37:56.600 find anything if you don't have the money to fund the right now 0:37:56.600,0:37:58.280 we look at high risk 0:37:58.280,0:38:00.960 Baghdad absolutely is important the future of our state 0:38:00.960,0:38:05.499 we're the best work force in the country it's the and the perhaps of the world 0:38:05.499,0:38:10.079 and we need to make sure that we continue to do that but you gotta bring be at the university 0:38:10.079,0:38:12.009 system in a twenty percent response 0:38:12.009,0:38:14.449 one way to the top heavy an administration 0:38:14.449,0:38:17.340 and I fear that President critics as a wonderful guy 0:38:17.340,0:38:21.860 talk about how if we don't get all the money we're talking were asking forward after raised 0:38:21.860,0:38:22.670 tuition again 0:38:22.670,0:38:26.559 well perhaps we should look at some of the administration perhaps we should look 0:38:26.559,0:38:30.500 and how we make this more affordable because inflation at college campuses 0:38:30.500,0:38:35.439 is running way beyond what it's going everywhere else in again ready to talk about honesty 0:38:35.439,0:38:39.019 you can't make promises to everybody about every that 0:38:39.019,0:38:42.189 you've got to talk to people about what it is you're going to cut when you have a two 0:38:42.189,0:38:44.220 and a half billion dollar hole in your budget 0:38:44.220,0:38:46.170 the other billion dollar hole in your budget 0:38:46.170,0:38:53.170 we've got to start being responsible so we can find their priorities going in the future 0:38:57.039,0:39:01.509 johanna higher education but now for a different question about higher education and here we 0:39:01.509,0:39:03.599 start with up corner 0:39:03.599,0:39:08.749 if you were asked to give series of lectures and undergraduate class here at the university 0:39:08.749,0:39:09.900 of minnesota 0:39:09.900,0:39:11.510 but subject which is used 0:39:11.510,0:39:13.560 what particular insight with a break 0:39:13.560,0:39:17.089 and what viewpoints other than your own which include 0:39:17.089,0:39:18.160 well it's of 0:39:18.160,0:39:22.400 and speak to the issue of leadership because again I think that's going to be the critical 0:39:22.400,0:39:22.940 issue 0:39:22.940,0:39:25.840 and so the the insights that I would bring 0:39:25.840,0:39:27.930 are the insights of those people 0:39:27.930,0:39:29.930 love and great leaders in minnesota 0:39:29.930,0:39:34.120 what that arne carlson a governor up a former governor whose endorsement I've very proud 0:39:34.120,0:39:35.969 to have 0:39:35.969,0:39:38.680 carlson walk into the situation 0:39:38.680,0:39:40.699 where he had a huge deficit 0:39:40.699,0:39:41.500 he fixed it 0:39:41.500,0:39:44.019 he fixed it honestly and transparently 0:39:44.019,0:39:46.880 but then he turned around and he said now we need reform 0:39:46.880,0:39:50.089 now we need to invest now we need to build for the future 0:39:50.089,0:39:53.489 they brought together a bipartisan group of legislators 0:39:53.489,0:39:55.499 and working on health care reform 0:39:55.499,0:39:56.910 and did it for free program 0:39:56.910,0:39:58.370 and it took them to eat right 0:39:58.370,0:39:59.639 we stuck with that 0:39:59.639,0:40:01.779 the same thing on workers' comp 0:40:01.779,0:40:03.260 governor carlson said 0:40:03.260,0:40:08.049 most exporters compensation because it is discouraging job creation in minnesota 0:40:08.049,0:40:11.149 he brought together a bipartisan group of legislators 0:40:11.149,0:40:13.329 unions workers business people 0:40:13.329,0:40:14.690 and they got a solution 0:40:14.690,0:40:15.539 that's leadership 0:40:15.539,0:40:18.319 if you're not tied to the old solutions of the past 0:40:18.319,0:40:21.619 you can move to the future 0:40:21.619,0:40:22.729 are 0:40:22.729,0:40:25.439 well i'd give a lecture comments and said 0:40:25.439,0:40:28.369 I hope to be more of a %uh dialogue 0:40:28.369,0:40:31.959 common sense says that she can't keep spending more than half 0:40:31.959,0:40:34.789 common sense says that you can't just keep 0:40:34.789,0:40:38.559 spending what you want to spend it as opposed to what you need is that 0:40:38.559,0:40:43.169 i'd want to have a dialogue about the fact that we can't continue to grow old government 0:40:43.169,0:40:43.959 beyond its means 0:40:43.959,0:40:47.900 and we've got to get back to our our roots that the freedom that this country's post 0:40:47.900,0:40:48.400 office 0:40:48.400,0:40:49.930 this country was not 0:40:49.930,0:40:51.219 built by government 0:40:51.219,0:40:54.750 it was built by people people who have the freedom more freedom 0:40:54.750,0:40:57.650 that any other people's ever known in the face of the planet 0:40:57.650,0:41:00.590 that giving people the freedom and the opportunity 0:41:00.590,0:41:04.750 to realize their greatest reads and meet their full potential that's the discussion about 0:41:04.750,0:41:06.389 like that 0:41:06.389,0:41:07.000 Saturday 0:41:07.000,0:41:10.910 the group remember I would not give a lecture on one of the dialogue 0:41:10.910,0:41:12.539 and it would be about girls 0:41:12.539,0:41:16.909 and share of were my heroes of such as Robert Kennedy 0:41:16.909,0:41:21.459 winston churchill franklin roosevelt abraham lincoln betty jo overnight third fourth grade 0:41:21.459,0:41:23.499 teacher so crucial in line 0:41:23.499,0:41:25.949 making the transition from one school to another 0:41:25.949,0:41:28.619 and i'd ask the students in who worry agree 0:41:28.619,0:41:29.900 your heroes 0:41:29.900,0:41:32.439 and and what are the qualities of leadership 0:41:32.439,0:41:37.129 he said mister warren also his inspiration and just the challenges that they overcame 0:41:37.129,0:41:41.529 their lives to to debate the contributions they did to the betterment of our society 0:41:41.529,0:41:45.799 and then what kind is rations now from Los angeles 0:41:45.799,0:41:49.059 thanks a lot 0:41:49.059,0:41:50.549 sitting here 0:41:50.549,0:41:54.109 question number eight for starting here with Barack Obama 0:41:54.109,0:41:57.719 learning from the successes and failures of one's predecessor is important 0:41:57.719,0:42:01.049 in minnesota need to know how much change in continuity 0:42:01.049,0:42:03.750 to expect in the governor's office as governor 0:42:03.750,0:42:07.290 in what ways with annually governor ten twenties 0:42:07.290,0:42:09.670 policy positions in the leadership style 0:42:09.670,0:42:14.380 and in what ways that you depart from his policy positions in leadership style 0:42:14.380,0:42:17.420 well I appreciate the question but I think we should go back far that 0:42:17.420,0:42:21.839 I think that what i'd like to do is look back at how we got here 0:42:21.839,0:42:23.549 is it's one thing to look back 0:42:23.549,0:42:28.010 %uh it and try to assess blame which other people seem to want to do on a regular basis 0:42:28.010,0:42:31.650 this is a their faltering his or her fault this to how we got here 0:42:31.650,0:42:35.450 we're going to start looking forward in the the only reason we should look backward it 0:42:35.450,0:42:36.969 is to see how we got here 0:42:36.969,0:42:41.119 and how did we get here since the late sixties early seventies we've had a 0:42:41.119,0:42:43.739 model of governance in this state where 0:42:43.739,0:42:47.010 republicans democrats alike agree the people who call themselves other 0:42:47.010,0:42:52.500 have always had this idea that the government runs all of money it looks immediately the 0:42:52.500,0:42:53.940 hard-working men and women in this state 0:42:53.940,0:42:56.730 the business of the state house and just to pay some more 0:42:56.730,0:42:58.909 so government continues to grow 0:42:58.909,0:42:59.400 that's not the 0:42:59.400,0:43:03.779 the answer for the future government in this state is simply grown to be large degree 0:43:03.779,0:43:06.039 it is suffocating our product happened 0:43:06.039,0:43:10.270 you gotta get that balance back in the leadership the style that I would offer 0:43:10.270,0:43:15.230 is it about all of us it's not just some of us we've got to get minnesota back on track 0:43:15.230,0:43:18.859 and we all have to work together to do 0:43:18.859,0:43:21.400 Saturday governor want policy on 0:43:21.400,0:43:26.200 well I didn't appreciate that of emulated the governor but his support for the minnesota 0:43:26.200,0:43:28.169 department of veterans affairs it 0:43:28.169,0:43:32.259 that respect is the commitment to our troops serving as he's been to 0:43:32.259,0:43:36.099 Barack had with Afghanistan and so I went and I was under three times to rock wants 0:43:36.099,0:43:37.699 to Afghanistan 0:43:37.699,0:43:40.569 and we voted together the hard part for of it 0:43:40.569,0:43:42.890 of which is to go to 0:43:42.890,0:43:45.709 Mike is most of the kids get virtually all 0:43:45.709,0:43:48.159 of the weeks and funerals of the 0:43:48.159,0:43:52.769 heroes who the died in service to the country in those countries and the briefly and often 0:43:52.769,0:43:53.310 did 0:43:53.310,0:43:54.549 in the %uh 0:43:54.549,0:43:58.569 opinion to fly the national guard helicopter to get their of active expeditiously and you 0:43:58.569,0:44:02.359 know that's hard to do and I respect its commitments livingstone as well 0:44:02.359,0:44:06.140 well history the governor plays shifted the part of the tax burden 0:44:06.140,0:44:10.900 the property tax property taxes are going up four billion dollars to seven billion dollars 0:44:10.900,0:44:16.090 the during his two terms as a tax that falls on fairly and middle income taxpayers 0:44:16.090,0:44:17.489 and on small business 0:44:17.489,0:44:21.429 so I would I would never stand but the effects responsibility more on 0:44:21.429,0:44:26.119 of return in the income tax and back to the applause 0:44:26.119,0:44:30.699 you know I think couple of things that governor want the has has done well is that 0:44:30.699,0:44:35.139 in his first administration I think he was much more responsible in dealing honestly 0:44:35.139,0:44:37.239 and forthrightly with the budget 0:44:37.239,0:44:38.869 including some tax increases 0:44:38.869,0:44:40.419 to balance the budget 0:44:40.419,0:44:41.660 focus on spending cuts 0:44:41.660,0:44:43.240 but do the the the right thing 0:44:43.240,0:44:47.690 I think governor Clinton has done a pretty good job in setting a foundation for health 0:44:47.690,0:44:48.620 reform 0:44:48.620,0:44:51.209 particularly for his investments in in prevention 0:44:51.209,0:44:54.069 well let me tell you a couple of things that I do disagree with 0:44:54.069,0:44:56.470 and there are about style and they are about leadership 0:44:56.470,0:44:59.449 and they do reflect that the candidates up here 0:44:59.449,0:45:01.479 one is that 0:45:01.479,0:45:06.219 we have a six billion dollar deficit to deal with next year 0:45:06.219,0:45:07.800 because representative them are 0:45:07.800,0:45:09.209 governor plenty 0:45:09.209,0:45:10.490 democrats republicans 0:45:10.490,0:45:14.400 weren't willing to deal with the three billion dollar shortfall 0:45:14.400,0:45:15.660 we can't afford that 0:45:15.660,0:45:17.819 and so my promise to you is that 0:45:17.819,0:45:19.459 at the end of four years 0:45:19.459,0:45:22.189 all handover a truly balanced budget 0:45:22.189,0:45:26.809 but I think secondly and governor want the with his ambitions for higher office I think 0:45:26.809,0:45:29.209 senate debate and frankly it does reflect your career 0:45:29.209,0:45:34.219 of always trying to move on to the next office giving up on what you've done before the jobless 0:45:34.219,0:45:34.739 over 0:45:34.739,0:45:39.479 we can't afford that we've seen the consequences in minnesota 0:45:39.479,0:45:40.829 yeah 0:45:40.829,0:45:43.949 only represent we're running short of time here but only representative at work you could 0:45:43.949,0:45:47.869 follow up for about thirty seconds and tell us is there anything about governor Clinton's 0:45:47.869,0:45:51.589 policy positions in particular well here's the thing it means we have that's in every 0:45:51.589,0:45:55.319 day talking about how this is direct relationship to property taxes 0:45:55.319,0:45:59.589 is it somehow the budget was cut over the last eight years and mister porter suggesting 0:45:59.589,0:46:02.749 the same thing and it's terrible because it's pushing that 0:46:02.749,0:46:04.890 at least and gentlemen that fact 0:46:04.890,0:46:08.119 at the end of this by and from two thousand one to the other twenty eleven 0:46:08.119,0:46:12.009 the end of this by any in state government general fund spending on the ground grown 0:46:12.009,0:46:14.490 by almost six point five billion dollars 0:46:14.490,0:46:18.990 it hasn't gone back on under governor pawlenty it's gone up by almost six point five billion 0:46:18.990,0:46:22.249 so this argument about property taxes is not right in 0:46:22.249,0:46:24.569 hi will just leave it at that 0:46:24.569,0:46:28.859 by is our final question for our television and radio audience 0:46:28.859,0:46:32.539 because the time limits for visiting forty five seconds each I apologize what are your 0:46:32.539,0:46:34.470 top goals your first term 0:46:34.470,0:46:37.459 if like governors Clinton carlson you have a second term 0:46:37.459,0:46:42.930 what would you like to the congress by the end of that term there will be no follow-up 0:46:42.930,0:46:45.509 and out 0:46:45.509,0:46:47.759 today concerning the first 0:46:47.759,0:46:51.669 liberal their sleeves and go to work with his own back to work all over the state although 0:46:51.669,0:46:52.959 the were 0:46:52.959,0:46:56.859 the international world with job gain from minnesota 0:46:56.859,0:47:00.160 and big the government collective partner with the 0:47:00.160,0:47:04.339 this is a struggle is over with marathon chambers local development corporations 0:47:04.339,0:47:06.859 the democrats measure of economic development 0:47:06.859,0:47:08.900 and then I would have is that dollars in income 0:47:08.900,0:47:11.630 and with the improved economy and those of resources 0:47:11.630,0:47:14.510 it will make up my party commitment to education 0:47:14.510,0:47:16.459 starting with early childhood education 0:47:16.459,0:47:17.809 more class sizes 0:47:17.809,0:47:19.949 a full day kindergarten 0:47:19.949,0:47:24.980 of higher education is more affordable restore the consummate in fact Indian options the 0:47:24.980,0:47:27.350 if there's some sort of an instant system 0:47:27.350,0:47:28.610 and so I think you're right 0:47:28.610,0:47:30.380 just more of the same time with more 0:47:30.380,0:47:33.300 that would help put more people back to work from minnesota 0:47:33.300,0:47:36.680 and for this or minnesota was as the premier state in the nation 0:47:36.680,0:47:38.160 thank you Senator 0:47:38.160,0:47:39.529 well first and foremost 0:47:39.529,0:47:42.600 we have to balance the budget we have to do it honestly fairly 0:47:42.600,0:47:46.999 we have to do it in a way that still allows for investment and minnesota's future 0:47:46.999,0:47:51.999 secondly I do think that we need to have a conversation around help about education 0:47:51.999,0:47:56.339 so that we can start to make changes we need to let teachers teach we need to remove some 0:47:56.339,0:48:00.019 of the rigidity of schools we need to to look at education 0:48:00.019,0:48:02.909 as a seamless lifelong opportunity 0:48:02.909,0:48:05.910 and that is going to include early education 0:48:05.910,0:48:08.889 reforming K-TWELVE looking at higher education 0:48:08.889,0:48:09.589 long term 0:48:09.589,0:48:12.240 we do have to have two reform health care 0:48:12.240,0:48:16.160 we've got to get control of the cost that's going to include older adult services 0:48:16.160,0:48:19.400 as well as the the the current health care system 0:48:19.400,0:48:20.930 and make it work for everybody 0:48:20.930,0:48:24.559 I started to deal with that as a community and level issue 0:48:24.559,0:48:25.540 and in the end 0:48:25.540,0:48:30.610 we need to be a state that is open for everybody that create opportunity and jobs for all the 0:48:30.610,0:48:33.320 so and are well 0:48:33.320,0:48:36.729 but I propose to do is exactly what I'm the only one who's put out 0:48:36.729,0:48:38.069 a balanced budget 0:48:38.069,0:48:42.239 a budget that is not smaller than it is right now it's seven eight percent greater uses 0:48:42.239,0:48:43.590 it so does suggest 0:48:43.590,0:48:45.559 it's a cop it's not 0:48:45.559,0:48:49.580 government is going to grow in the next tightening were in the office by seven eight percent 0:48:49.580,0:48:53.610 and we will redesign the actual structure of government to get rid of the pulpit duplication 0:48:53.610,0:48:54.540 the access 0:48:54.540,0:48:58.280 so that we can start to deliver services that people expect efficient manner 0:48:58.280,0:49:01.890 and the first and foremost the thing that you don't hear from my colleagues that we 0:49:01.890,0:49:02.610 must do 0:49:02.610,0:49:04.869 he's the next governor the next legislature 0:49:04.869,0:49:07.010 must get government out of the way and create 0:49:07.010,0:49:10.449 you want to have used to grow jobs in this case 0:49:10.449,0:49:14.309 because if we don't start growing jobs again in our private economy it won't matter 0:49:14.309,0:49:15.560 we won't have 0:49:15.560,0:49:18.849 the revenue to pay for the services people expected to govern 0:49:18.849,0:49:21.449 that should be the job of the next day 0:49:21.449,0:49:25.789 this concludes the first segment of the debate part television and radio audience please 0:49:25.789,0:49:27.139 join me and thank you for Canada